Right, that's deism

Use it more as a metaphor for a guiding purpose

Collective unconcious more like

Boi you just say what I say only smarter! I will fite you

lol

basically, there's shit engrained into our moral compasses as humans that is as standard as having 5 fingers

Some people call that 'god'

On that basis I would absolutely have to disagree people's moral compasses are different between people

Not disagree with that you said I actually disagree with Peatrson view

No, that's the extra layering on top. Below even that surface there are things we have in common, but more like as relative symbology of our relation to our social group

The dominance heirarchy, if you will

Something interesting about Peterson

Yeah that's my point some people literally do not have that at all and will completely opt out of the dominance hierarchy

compare his bill c16 videos to now

he's got this almost tangible intensity to him now

he's lost weight and gained some definition in nearly everything he does. I'm certain he's got a personal tailor of some form or another to always keep him sharp.

And he's refined the fuck out of his speaking

@flyingfoxel But they're the odd ones out.

I think that's something unique to humans however that can't be overlooked. Our ability to abstract about our position within the heirarchy

if this sounds a little fanboyish, I know, but in the four-way chat between JBP, weinstein, shapiro and rubin

What you turn to a public speaker like that you pretty much have to otherwise people will destroy you say pretty harshly

the latter three were rather casual and off the cuff as they were

but whenever it turns to JBP (I listen to rubin audio-only usually) you can like, feel him thinking his thoughts

I think the number of people that don't operate as expected within the dominance hierarchy is a lot higher than you expect.

and each word he says sounds like it should be accompanied by a slow fade to a cosmic background

with his eyes glowing

he's got this psuedo-prophetic cadance to him that's rally facinating

I don't know if I describe it right

Because people are always pressing the boundaries of what they can get away with and with technology and personal choice we escaped that hire every so often I think it's actually a part of our psyche to attempt to get past it

@flyingfoxel I think you misunderstood me.

*That* is what's special about humans

but he's got this control and intensity that I find really admirable

you know what I mean?

Sometimes he comes off as pretentious and way over the top for the setting

Give me sounds like a trained the preacher and has used that to his advantage

but it's a really great speaking method to command a room

I can do the same thing and sound like every word I say has great inportance it's not hard every preacher and every imam learns how to do it

@flyingfoxel No, cause that's what Dyson does lol

I just think he does it exceptionally well compared to whoever he's usually against

I'd like to see him against someone else who also has the same sort of concentrated intensity

If it doesn't turn into a circlejerk or a shitfest

alright, well, the potential conversation about hierarchies would have been fun 🤷🏻

lol

If you want to see that you can see both the shitfest and the circle jerk by watching his conversations with ... Well one of the four horsemen I can't remember what his name is