@Goblin_Slayer_Floki yes, but note that what cultures decide actually constitutes murder is what varies. Example: in Islam, killing an unbeliever is not murder.

if you kill a nuclear engineer for no reason who is trying to stop a reactor form going critical you are retarded and in the wrong all at once.

@ConceptHut "Crime of passion"

Are you going to answer the question?

Again thats implimentation vs base morality

@ConceptHut If you guys are all gonna discuss this and get absolutely nowhere after this long. You should move to voicechat because the conversation is becoming pointless in this format.

@Roarey killing a believer is bad. So implimentation vs base

You thought talking about morality would be a short conversation?

can whitey even enter vc?

@DanConway no, I'm done with you, since you can't be arsed supplying your own side of the argument, knowing that to avoid doing so protects your bullshit from me.

You might actually get somewhere if you guys talked it.

I cant working

Rip

@meratrix but then everyone would hear how gay dan sounds

^

Lmao

fucking boomer

like full blown faggot

zoomer the boomer

So we are devolving into insults instead of conversation. Alright. o_o

@Deleted User full blown faggot is that a faggot with a bj in session?

yes

I am attempting to show you things that exist objectively outside of human consciousness and are found through reason

@ConceptHut We're memeing on him, calm your damn tits.

"WE'RE BEING REASONABLE"

and try to ask what makes morality different from those things

Someone sure sounds like Cenk

Meming. Sure. lol

kicking lol

It's almost like we have inside jokes on a server that has a fairly active core group. Imagine that.

Someone is kicking?

@DanConway debatable. What humans find moral arnt really found outside humanity. The animal kingdom runs by another set of rules

my claim for objective morality is that it is not different from those things

@meratrix too bad you're talking to a greyfag

who knows nuffin

Lol

But animals fall within those rules @Goblin_Slayer_Floki

@Goblin_Slayer_Floki - Animals have rules for what is acceptable and not within their species. Otherwise you'd see them all killing each other and their babies constantly.

what is not a moral agent has not moral quandaries

So your equating morality to instinct. Because any animal will kill a baby if it isnt viable or able to survive

@DanConway sorry but morals dont exsist they are drawn from collective subjective points of view.