Message from @🌻 togepi 🌻

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2018-11-01 03:49:38 UTC  

@🌻 togepi 🌻 - No. I already said no and explained why it is no.

2018-11-01 03:49:45 UTC  

no you didn't

2018-11-01 03:49:48 UTC  

you just asserted

2018-11-01 03:49:52 UTC  

I am claiming they are Transcendental

2018-11-01 03:50:06 UTC  

and i am asking you if you understand what that means

2018-11-01 03:50:25 UTC  

Right, and where do they come from? What is transcendental?

2018-11-01 03:50:32 UTC  

<:oof:494878589406150657>

2018-11-01 03:50:37 UTC  

Try actually saying something

2018-11-01 03:50:39 UTC  

so you can go beyond whats writin in the code

2018-11-01 03:50:44 UTC  

to make a decision

2018-11-01 03:50:49 UTC  

based on your values

2018-11-01 03:50:52 UTC  

all transcendental concepts are just that in your head mate, unless you can prove otherwise, there is no obcetivity to that concept and is thus useless to effect this exsistance.

2018-11-01 03:51:00 UTC  

```Transcendental - relating to a spiritual or nonphysical realm.``` - Dictionary

2018-11-01 03:51:08 UTC  

Not exactly

2018-11-01 03:51:16 UTC  

wut

2018-11-01 03:51:18 UTC  

I want him to explain what he means, I want him to make a point.

2018-11-01 03:51:30 UTC  

why?

2018-11-01 03:51:32 UTC  

*"I want!"*

2018-11-01 03:51:34 UTC  

Transcendental is just a cop out so you don't have to proof your position.

2018-11-01 03:51:37 UTC  

it's crap

2018-11-01 03:51:40 UTC  

^^

2018-11-01 03:51:41 UTC  

lol

2018-11-01 03:51:47 UTC  

Because you're supposed to be fucking making an argument you wanker

2018-11-01 03:52:00 UTC  

This thing is above it because it's, `Transcendental`.

2018-11-01 03:52:02 UTC  

This is the state of our education system....

2018-11-01 03:52:06 UTC  

What is the standard of proof for objective or subjective morality?

2018-11-01 03:52:17 UTC  

Aight, I'm done.

2018-11-01 03:52:25 UTC  

the thing is that subjective morality does not necessitate a proof

2018-11-01 03:52:43 UTC  

the whole idea is to think for yourself

2018-11-01 03:53:11 UTC  

if you say something is objective then it must be true regardless of opinion, which means a proof should exist

2018-11-01 03:53:25 UTC  

>asks for proof
>Claims does not need proof for his position

2018-11-01 03:53:35 UTC  

<:thronk:441701565607444482>

2018-11-01 03:53:41 UTC  

subjective morality? doesn;t exsist, objective is an attempt to quantify the amount of unnecessary suffering in a given system without violating others personal rights given by society

2018-11-01 03:53:43 UTC  

```if you say something is objective then it must be true regardless of opinion, which means a proof should exist``` The universe exists objectively regardless of me being able to explain the proof of how it exists.

2018-11-01 03:53:52 UTC  

Well, from their perspective you are claiming the existance of some magical thing

2018-11-01 03:53:54 UTC  

my position is that there is no proof for either

2018-11-01 03:54:09 UTC  

@ConceptHut Not if we live in a simulation.

2018-11-01 03:54:12 UTC  

<:think_woke:378717098681171988>

2018-11-01 03:54:22 UTC  

agnostic

2018-11-01 03:54:25 UTC  

but you are claiming that your morality is objective, which means it can be prooved

2018-11-01 03:54:25 UTC  

@meratrix kys find out