Message from @Roarey

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2018-11-01 03:46:31 UTC  

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2018-11-01 03:46:33 UTC  

``` If morality is an objective standard of right and wrong, that exists independently of anyone's individual perception of it, from whence cometh this standard?````
If math is an objective standard independently of anyone's individual perception of it, from whence cometh this standard?

2018-11-01 03:46:35 UTC  

@Roarey They keyword here, is "good" and your ability to judge what that means

2018-11-01 03:46:48 UTC  

@🌻 togepi 🌻 - Just like laws that you know, you can override them.

2018-11-01 03:47:00 UTC  

so youve made a subjective decision

2018-11-01 03:47:06 UTC  

and have a subjective morality deep down

2018-11-01 03:47:17 UTC  

I will go back to my original question

2018-11-01 03:47:29 UTC  

It wouldn't mean you have a subjective morality. It just would mean you didn't comply with objective morality.

2018-11-01 03:47:31 UTC  

thanks for tagging every time btw

2018-11-01 03:47:39 UTC  

What makes Misery better or worse than pleasure?

2018-11-01 03:48:06 UTC  

The definition of the word morality is what is considered right and wrong. I'm asking a fucking simple question, because you, Paul, made the claim that morality is objective and indipendant from human perceptions. I'm asking you to tell me where it comes from if it is indipendant of people.

2018-11-01 03:48:09 UTC  

so you overrid the law, by your own judgement, but it is still objective, but you thought the wrong thing was right?

2018-11-01 03:48:34 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372507611284766722/507400534131474444/respect_conversation.jpg

2018-11-01 03:48:40 UTC  

same tbh

2018-11-01 03:48:59 UTC  

Do you understand what a Transcendental is?

2018-11-01 03:49:00 UTC  

@🌻 togepi 🌻 - No you wouldn't be thinking the wrong thing was right. You'd be thinking the wrong thing held more value than the right thing for that scenario.

2018-11-01 03:49:04 UTC  

@DanConway context one persons misery can be another's pleasure

2018-11-01 03:49:13 UTC  

@DanConway just answer the fucking question.

2018-11-01 03:49:20 UTC  

I am asking you

2018-11-01 03:49:21 UTC  

so you made a decision based on the situation on what is right

2018-11-01 03:49:26 UTC  

Answer it.

2018-11-01 03:49:29 UTC  

The only kind of trans he understands is the one with Shroedingers dick

2018-11-01 03:49:29 UTC  

> subjective

2018-11-01 03:49:37 UTC  

lol

2018-11-01 03:49:38 UTC  

@🌻 togepi 🌻 - No. I already said no and explained why it is no.

2018-11-01 03:49:45 UTC  

no you didn't

2018-11-01 03:49:48 UTC  

you just asserted

2018-11-01 03:49:52 UTC  

I am claiming they are Transcendental

2018-11-01 03:50:06 UTC  

and i am asking you if you understand what that means

2018-11-01 03:50:25 UTC  

Right, and where do they come from? What is transcendental?

2018-11-01 03:50:32 UTC  

<:oof:494878589406150657>

2018-11-01 03:50:37 UTC  

Try actually saying something

2018-11-01 03:50:39 UTC  

so you can go beyond whats writin in the code

2018-11-01 03:50:44 UTC  

to make a decision

2018-11-01 03:50:49 UTC  

based on your values

2018-11-01 03:50:52 UTC  

all transcendental concepts are just that in your head mate, unless you can prove otherwise, there is no obcetivity to that concept and is thus useless to effect this exsistance.

2018-11-01 03:51:00 UTC  

```Transcendental - relating to a spiritual or nonphysical realm.``` - Dictionary

2018-11-01 03:51:08 UTC  

Not exactly

2018-11-01 03:51:16 UTC  

wut

2018-11-01 03:51:18 UTC  

I want him to explain what he means, I want him to make a point.

2018-11-01 03:51:30 UTC  

why?