>Thats the point

thats the meme

@DanConway Study set theory ni🅱🅱a.

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@🌻 togepi 🌻 Before we could prove mathematics exists, did it exist?

how many apples paul

Let me spell it out
A set of discrete objects is countable and can represent a real number. Combining two sets represents adding two numbers, removing a subset from a set represents subtraction, etc.
Repeat for multiplication and division.
Objects have always been a thing, so yes math has always existed.

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ah ah counting is math and doesn't exist try agian

😂

I asked you to prove that math exists

I will now ask you to read

It was just proven above.

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I dont think you understand what prove means

I don't think you understand set theory.

I dont think you understand what math is

^

The addition and subtraction of objects is always true, even without observation.

I dont think you understand my point

If a tree falls in the woods and no one hears it, is there one less tree standing?
yes

^

if i do not set a standard of evidence and when you try and explain the concept just say that does not meet my standard

that is not an honest conversation

wut

"Prove" *is* a set standard

If youre talking about us not accepting a proof for objective morality, you havent exactly put one forth

You have already said it is unprovable

Because dan's a glue huffing, crayon chewing idiot

> its unprovable
> change my mind

and that is a sincere invitation

What is your standard of evidence to change your mind?

a series of well structured arguments that are logically consistent

It's from a catholic so it can't be all the sincere

> proof

Ok

Do you know Aristotle´s argument for a first mover?

yes 😂

ok that is our starting point

lemme stop you right there

Let him finish