Message from @🌻 togepi 🌻

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2018-11-01 03:52:17 UTC  

Aight, I'm done.

2018-11-01 03:52:25 UTC  

the thing is that subjective morality does not necessitate a proof

2018-11-01 03:52:43 UTC  

the whole idea is to think for yourself

2018-11-01 03:53:11 UTC  

if you say something is objective then it must be true regardless of opinion, which means a proof should exist

2018-11-01 03:53:25 UTC  

>asks for proof
>Claims does not need proof for his position

2018-11-01 03:53:35 UTC  

<:thronk:441701565607444482>

2018-11-01 03:53:41 UTC  

subjective morality? doesn;t exsist, objective is an attempt to quantify the amount of unnecessary suffering in a given system without violating others personal rights given by society

2018-11-01 03:53:43 UTC  

```if you say something is objective then it must be true regardless of opinion, which means a proof should exist``` The universe exists objectively regardless of me being able to explain the proof of how it exists.

2018-11-01 03:53:52 UTC  

Well, from their perspective you are claiming the existance of some magical thing

2018-11-01 03:53:54 UTC  

my position is that there is no proof for either

2018-11-01 03:54:09 UTC  

@ConceptHut Not if we live in a simulation.

2018-11-01 03:54:12 UTC  

<:think_woke:378717098681171988>

2018-11-01 03:54:22 UTC  

agnostic

2018-11-01 03:54:25 UTC  

but you are claiming that your morality is objective, which means it can be prooved

2018-11-01 03:54:25 UTC  

@meratrix kys find out

2018-11-01 03:54:35 UTC  

@meratrix - Simulation, unicorn fart, God created it, etc. doesn't matter. We still call this thing we live in reality.

2018-11-01 03:54:41 UTC  

@Fitzydog fuck off Fitz, he's supposed to be having an argument with me and that means both sides supply an argument and explain what they mean and believe. Never mind "I WANT" it's basic fucking courtesy. State of education indeed.

2018-11-01 03:54:42 UTC  

Screw your optics, I'm going in.

2018-11-01 03:54:49 UTC  

can you prove the existence of mathematics?

2018-11-01 03:54:50 UTC  

@ConceptHut It's all the same, really lol

2018-11-01 03:54:59 UTC  

paul yes actually

2018-11-01 03:54:59 UTC  

report back to us by pulling the cord to the machine

2018-11-01 03:55:04 UTC  

> set theory

2018-11-01 03:55:36 UTC  

You can prove that mathematics exists?

2018-11-01 03:55:42 UTC  

PROVE?

2018-11-01 03:55:46 UTC  

yes actually
see above

2018-11-01 03:55:47 UTC  

That's actually a thing

2018-11-01 03:55:53 UTC  

where is your evidence

2018-11-01 03:56:00 UTC  

> fuckin magnets how do they work

2018-11-01 03:56:10 UTC  

>Thats the point

2018-11-01 03:56:16 UTC  

thats the meme

2018-11-01 03:56:25 UTC  

@DanConway Study set theory ni🅱🅱a.

2018-11-01 03:56:45 UTC  

@🌻 togepi 🌻 Before we could prove mathematics exists, did it exist?

2018-11-01 03:56:48 UTC  

how many apples paul

2018-11-01 03:57:50 UTC  

Let me spell it out
A set of discrete objects is countable and can represent a real number. Combining two sets represents adding two numbers, removing a subset from a set represents subtraction, etc.
Repeat for multiplication and division.
Objects have always been a thing, so yes math has always existed.

2018-11-01 03:57:52 UTC  

8

2018-11-01 03:58:07 UTC  

ah ah counting is math and doesn't exist try agian

2018-11-01 03:58:16 UTC  

😂

2018-11-01 03:58:32 UTC  

I asked you to prove that math exists

2018-11-01 03:58:43 UTC  

I will now ask you to read