Message from @🌻 togepi 🌻

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2018-11-01 04:22:24 UTC  

No i am claiming that to say that "There are no Moral claims, is of itself a moral claim"

2018-11-01 04:22:59 UTC  

do explain

2018-11-01 04:23:03 UTC  

it is illogical in the same way we would both find an infinite regress illogical

2018-11-01 04:23:25 UTC  

There are no Moral claims is an absolute

2018-11-01 04:23:31 UTC  

i wish i understood half of these words because it seems interesting

2018-11-01 04:23:38 UTC  

> ontological

2018-11-01 04:23:47 UTC  

tautological

2018-11-01 04:23:55 UTC  

no

2018-11-01 04:24:14 UTC  

thats what paul is doing tho
it translates to: wordplay

2018-11-01 04:24:18 UTC  

?

2018-11-01 04:24:39 UTC  

By saying there are no moral claims. You are making one moral claim

2018-11-01 04:24:40 UTC  

what

2018-11-01 04:24:46 UTC  

thus it refutes itself

2018-11-01 04:25:00 UTC  

Youre saying that "There are no moral claims" is a moral claim because it contains the word "moral"

2018-11-01 04:25:31 UTC  

But lets just define moral claim because i guess thats what were about these days

2018-11-01 04:25:43 UTC  

moral claim: a statement about what is right or wrong

2018-11-01 04:26:08 UTC  

"There are no moral claims" says nothing on the moral right or wrong of anything

2018-11-01 04:26:22 UTC  

By saying Nothing is right or wrong you are making a statement about what is right or wrong

2018-11-01 04:26:30 UTC  

no, no you are not.

2018-11-01 04:26:47 UTC  

It says nothing **about** right or wrong

2018-11-01 04:26:57 UTC  

so it is not a moral claim

2018-11-01 04:27:02 UTC  

no

2018-11-01 04:27:11 UTC  

Is saying nothing is right

2018-11-01 04:27:19 UTC  

3333

2018-11-01 04:27:25 UTC  

Is not a statement about what is right?

2018-11-01 04:27:41 UTC  

It is not a statement about moral right or wrong.

2018-11-01 04:27:52 UTC  

So it is not a moral claim

2018-11-01 04:28:09 UTC  

@Durtle02🀠

2018-11-01 04:28:15 UTC  

"Nothing is morally wrong"

2018-11-01 04:28:16 UTC  

hql5

2018-11-01 04:28:21 UTC  

I know the argument Paul is trying to make, and it's butchered

2018-11-01 04:28:28 UTC  

Even if it were, all weve done is prove that "There are no moral claims" is the only moral claim that can exist

2018-11-01 04:28:28 UTC  

-3//9 durtle

2018-11-01 04:28:34 UTC  

that is not a statement about right and wrong?

2018-11-01 04:28:58 UTC  

"There are no moral claims" does not say anything about the moral value of anything

2018-11-01 04:29:12 UTC  

which is like saying you have a triangle with 4 sides

2018-11-01 04:29:20 UTC  

wut nigga

2018-11-01 04:29:31 UTC  

🀦

2018-11-01 04:29:32 UTC  

A claim there is an absence of something is not a claim that there is a presence of it.

2018-11-01 04:29:34 UTC  

misanalogy 5 yards

2018-11-01 04:29:46 UTC  

fourangle