there are two types moral claims

value claims

and prescriptive claims

According to what?

you are making a prescriptive claim not a value claim when you say there are no moral claims

methinks someone is pulling things out his ass.

I take it there still hasn't been any mention of what this transcendent morality constitutes either

At this point weve been repeating our arguments to each other ad nauseum, so ill concede for fun
We have proven the claim "There are no moral claims" is a moral claim. Great! Now no other moral claims can exist. Thanks for cleaing that up

prescriptive morals claims appeal to some norm or standard and tell us what the world ought to be like

How convenient. How lovely to be able to incessantly claim the existence of something one never has to define or substantiate.

> appeal to some norm or standard
sounds pretty subjective to me

OwO

Im not sure what the disconnect is

I think the disconnect is,... BOOMER.

Simple, doesn't get simpler. If you claim objective morality exists, that it is transcendent, simply describe what that transcendent morality is and where it comes from.

We'll connect when you make a non-contradictory statement

I am saying the statement itself is contrary to itself

https://www.twitter.com/mauritian_strug/status/1057788118303154176

That describes perfectly well everything youve said

So you believe that something exists but to be asked what it is is a contradiction in itself. Yeah. Wow. Holy. Shit.

@Puma lol i stole that from here

Oh

where the other person stole it from lmao

I am making the claim that we either live in a amoral universe or a moral one
and an objectively moral one is more likely

And what is a moral universe? What does that mean? What is objective morality?

Define. It.

you have already made it clear you do not understand what any of those things are

Define it then.

Elucidate me, illuminate for me the mysteries and your wisdom.

and an ontological (definition based) argument is not valid because it is based on language alone

^

That moral claims can be true, or false

how do you define something if not using a definition

If an argument to prove the existence of something is based on manipulating english language definitions, its not based on reality itself

Right, and what is the standard for knowing if a moral value is true or false? How is that determined?

Can things not be known Apriori?

> "There are no moral claims" is a moral claim
is an example of a bullshit ontological argument that doesnt really prove anything but that you can make little english paradoxes if you interpret things just right

Stop dodging and being dishonest.