Message from @DanConway
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A claim there is an absence of something is not a claim that there is a presence of it.
misanalogy 5 yards
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Is says there is no moral value in anything
which is a moral claim
No it's a claim that morality doesn't exist.
Nope youre still not get the level of detachment it has from the value of actions
It's the opposite of a moral claim its a statement that there are no moral claims
a moral claim makes a statement about the right or wrong value of actions, "There are no moral claims" does not say anything about the value of actions
there are two types moral claims
value claims
and prescriptive claims
According to what?
you are making a prescriptive claim not a value claim when you say there are no moral claims
methinks someone is pulling things out his ass.
I take it there still hasn't been any mention of what this transcendent morality constitutes either
At this point weve been repeating our arguments to each other ad nauseum, so ill concede for fun
We have proven the claim "There are no moral claims" is a moral claim. Great! Now no other moral claims can exist. Thanks for cleaing that up
prescriptive morals claims appeal to some norm or standard and tell us what the world ought to be like
How convenient. How lovely to be able to incessantly claim the existence of something one never has to define or substantiate.
> appeal to some norm or standard
sounds pretty subjective to me
OwO
Im not sure what the disconnect is
I think the disconnect is,... BOOMER.
Simple, doesn't get simpler. If you claim objective morality exists, that it is transcendent, simply describe what that transcendent morality is and where it comes from.
We'll connect when you make a non-contradictory statement
I am saying the statement itself is contrary to itself
That describes perfectly well everything youve said
So you believe that something exists but to be asked what it is is a contradiction in itself. Yeah. Wow. Holy. Shit.
Oh
where the other person stole it from lmao
I am making the claim that we either live in a amoral universe or a moral one
and an objectively moral one is more likely
And what is a moral universe? What does that mean? What is objective morality?
Define. It.
you have already made it clear you do not understand what any of those things are