Message from @DA GOMMIE JOO

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2019-11-18 23:55:10 UTC  

the soviets completely covered the area afterwards and they were the soviets

2019-11-18 23:55:36 UTC  

in fact, the east germans played a major role in inflating the death toll

2019-11-18 23:56:31 UTC  

look if you can accept that the holocaust was fake then how is a single city completely infeasible to you

2019-11-18 23:56:58 UTC  

Because, again, krauts literally didn't have the influence to propagate such a myth.

2019-11-18 23:57:18 UTC  

it would've looked very good for the soviets post-war if they could spin the firebombing into the evils of the west

2019-11-18 23:57:42 UTC  

and the soviets were no strangers to editing the truth

2019-11-18 23:58:13 UTC  

they kept the afloat the myth of hitler being alive, when they had his teeth all the time

2019-11-18 23:58:32 UTC  

I can imagine stalin telling his advisors "twenty thousand? I'll see you half a million! They used a thousand bombers! Who cares how impossible it sounds?"

2019-11-18 23:59:01 UTC  

You think Soviets would've felt sympathy for the Nazis they were told to hate the entire war? It was much easier to tout the famine in India or the lynching in the US as an example of evils of the West.

2019-11-18 23:59:26 UTC  

How many media companies were owned by krauts post-WW2? Meanwhile, Jews are building their own nation, and are desperate for foreign military aid, they had every reason to propagate the myth, and the means.

2019-11-18 23:59:35 UTC  

I'm not gonna step right out and say that stalin and the soviets directly were in charge

2019-11-18 23:59:43 UTC  

but the east germans most likely clamped down on the myth

2019-11-19 00:00:09 UTC  

with some aid from soviet intelligence to spin it into a convincing little story about how the west flattened a city

2019-11-19 00:00:45 UTC  

and boy oh boy did they get gibs out of it

2019-11-19 00:00:54 UTC  

there was one church in dresden that cost 180 million euro to repair

2019-11-19 00:00:59 UTC  

Hardly. East Germans were basically told to pretend they weren't German, just part of the Soviet Union. The USSR didn't want them to think they were another Socialist country like Yugoslavia, just part of the Union. Invoking Dresden would encourage nationalist fervor, and weaken the influence of the USSR over Germany.

2019-11-19 00:01:11 UTC  

they did it all up in gold and put in a massive organ

2019-11-19 00:01:21 UTC  

all to pay for the alleged bombing

2019-11-19 00:01:29 UTC  

give us your gold, anglo

2019-11-19 00:03:54 UTC  

Why would East Germany propagate the myth and demand money for destroyed churches? Would seem rather uncharacteristic of them to ask for money to repair churches, considering the USSR's atheism.

2019-11-19 00:05:00 UTC  

money and pity, mostly

2019-11-19 00:05:26 UTC  

To rebuild churches and famous landmarks that invoke pre-Soviet Germany?

2019-11-19 00:07:27 UTC  

I don't think anybody wanted to pity the Germans, and if you asked any Englishmen if they felt bad about Dresden, they'd probably say it's payback for the bombs they dropped on us.

I could've been sentimentality that drove the bombings, or more likely, a form of shock and awe, to convince the few Germans still fighting to surrender.

2019-11-19 00:08:39 UTC  

^

2019-11-19 00:09:10 UTC  

Never forget the rape of Berlin

2019-11-19 00:09:40 UTC  

Never forget

2019-11-19 00:09:57 UTC  

<#634415084101435423> pls

2019-11-19 00:12:49 UTC  

@hey.free. wifi Wouldn't've happened without allied support, either. The Union sucked, and without our significant military aid in the form of weapons and vehicles, and attacking Germany from another front, they would've fallen to the Germans and the Japs.

2019-11-19 00:13:30 UTC  

Stalin, even then, asked us for more aid. He was scared shitless of Germany.

2019-11-19 00:13:57 UTC  

Europe should have United

2019-11-19 00:14:05 UTC  

But the were lied to

2019-11-19 00:14:14 UTC  

Pan-Europeanism is bad imo.

2019-11-19 00:14:32 UTC  

And so many brittish killed Germans because muh reasons

2019-11-19 00:14:41 UTC  

Some Europe countries are better than others, and I don't want British tax money going to propping up garbage European economies like Italy or Greece.

2019-11-19 00:15:59 UTC  

ewww

2019-11-19 00:16:09 UTC  

discussions in memes

2019-11-19 00:16:12 UTC  

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2019-11-19 00:16:38 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634415983741763594/646141750754410536/1454899664274.jpg

2019-11-19 00:16:39 UTC  
2019-11-19 00:16:41 UTC  

Chat has died down now anyway

2019-11-19 00:17:16 UTC  

Though I think focusing specifically on Dresden, is pointless. We firebombed Japan plenty. We starved the Indians. We nuked Japan, twice.