Message from @Nerthulas

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2019-12-14 18:24:25 UTC  

It’s so disgusting tbh

2019-12-14 18:25:49 UTC  

You know when you're on an airplane, and they fell you to fix your own oxygen mask before helping others? You beleive in the reverse of that. But do you know why they tell you to not be a hero and help yourself before you help others? Because you can't help anyone when suffocating to death.

A person who isn't a qualified lifeguard shouldn't risk their life trying to fish out sombody, when they can't swim as well as a lifeguard could.

There's being altruistic, then there's just being an idiot. That sort of disregard your own wellbeing is what brings a collective down.

2019-12-14 18:27:39 UTC  

You take what I say so incredibly autisticly, OFC you don’t put yourself in a position which you’ll be unable to help more people with, that’s lack of long term thinking

2019-12-14 18:28:56 UTC  

Bro, philosophy is pretty autistic. But yeah, collectivism is the default. Doolittle is right about property being a familial institution. A society based on property wouldn't be one dominated by Sargonite individualists.

2019-12-14 18:29:20 UTC  

Why would you base your society on property instead of your people?

2019-12-14 18:29:37 UTC  

Isn't having the requirement of having an oxygen mask on a plane a positive obligation though?

2019-12-14 18:30:46 UTC  

@Angry. A society based on people is a society based on property. People make property.

2019-12-14 18:30:54 UTC  

Not really. It's not as if anyone is forcing you, they advise you to do it, for obvious reasons. @imozzietrash

2019-12-14 18:31:27 UTC  

I'm meaning that in an autistically libertarian society airline companies could just not have oxygeon masks

2019-12-14 18:31:39 UTC  

Would that be breaking the NAP or some other tenant?

2019-12-14 18:35:56 UTC  

Depends. Consumers make dumb decisions imo, even in today's regulated markets. They fly on planes with designs that have already proven faulty because they just don't know any better.

But yeah, the market bends to the will of the consumers. Consumers will eat soup that has literally been simmering for 4 decades. Who are you to judge? If they want oxygen masks, they'll get them if they want them.

I personally have my reservations. People are dumb, afterall. But I don't think the government is any better in a lot of cases.

2019-12-14 18:37:28 UTC  

I don't see any obligation to obey what the government see as "best for us", that's subjective. It's all dependent on their ability to force their subjective will on you.

Ngl I usually disagree with Libertarians in the ethics department because their ethical systems become so complex that the average citizen either can't understand, or won't care to.

2019-12-14 18:38:08 UTC  

With all of that in mind why would you be a libertarian?

2019-12-14 18:38:16 UTC  

The society is managed by all the millions of consumers

2019-12-14 18:38:19 UTC  

and you admit that they're dumb?

2019-12-14 18:39:38 UTC  

That's subjective. Will is subjective. Might makes right, basically.

2019-12-14 18:39:57 UTC  

That's the perspective of an atheist, yes.

2019-12-14 18:40:15 UTC  

Not necessarily.

2019-12-14 18:40:22 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634415983741763594/655479211556864030/founded_by_man-1.jpg

2019-12-14 18:49:20 UTC  

Weaboo now all I’m thinking about is a chick birthing a child out of a car going 70 mph

2019-12-14 19:08:22 UTC  

the thing is, why do we need to apply ideas like 'trustee-owner' or 'rightful owner' or anything like that, when we have the idea of 'parent and child' already? Are these ideas more specific, do we gain anything out of them? Not really, we already have a word for the parent-child relationship

2019-12-14 19:09:03 UTC  

its a bit like those memes where you endlessly define something, you define every word in its definition, and every word in that definition

2019-12-14 19:53:55 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634415983741763594/655497721246908450/IMG_20191214_190406.jpg

2019-12-14 19:55:40 UTC  

wat lol

2019-12-14 20:00:18 UTC  

Is that from that fucking porn comic

2019-12-14 20:00:22 UTC  

That people keep spamming

2019-12-14 20:00:32 UTC  

Disgusting shit

2019-12-14 20:00:36 UTC  

Some 1488

2019-12-14 20:00:45 UTC  

Hooks up with that girl

2019-12-14 20:00:49 UTC  

Disgusting

2019-12-14 20:00:58 UTC  

People keep spamming that shit on /pol/

2019-12-14 20:01:02 UTC  

Disgusting

2019-12-14 20:01:25 UTC  
2019-12-14 20:15:25 UTC  

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2019-12-14 20:16:01 UTC  

@BasedChris Dosen't hookup. Just becomes friends. Lol

2019-12-14 20:16:10 UTC  

It's funny. Skyla is cute.

2019-12-14 20:37:03 UTC  

"just becomes friends"

2019-12-14 20:37:05 UTC  

bruh moment

2019-12-14 20:42:30 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634415983741763594/655509946124861459/a.mp4

2019-12-14 20:46:17 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634415983741763594/655510899767115793/eeb44e5acd15f900.mp4

2019-12-14 20:47:32 UTC  

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