Message from @johny1846
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I don't
for plants to stop a net increase in temp they wouuld have to lock away CO2 at an alarming rate
especially at ~1500ppm
What do you mean input energy into a system? co2 levels change equilibriums so temps raise it doesn’t keep trapping energy for ever
So energy can’t leave
uuhhhh, isn't that what you call the greenhouse effect?
if 400ppm co2 will cause a catastrophic rate of temp increase, what rate of temp increase do you think 1500ppm would produce?
how would plants even catch up?
Catch up with what
the rate of temp increase
it increases with increasing CO2
Do you think if you have 1500ppm of co2 the temperature of earth will keep rising to infinite?
no, that would be ridiculous
So co2 levels and temperature have a equilibrium.
Temperature won’t just keep increasing
To infinity
it should get as hot as venus, if climate scientists are to be believed
No it shouldn’t Venus is 96% carbon dioxide and has a thicker atmosphere. While 1500ppm is waaaaaay less then what Venus has.
We would expect a huge temperature difference and we do
I think Venus has 86 million ppm
I've never heard a single climate person talk about equilibriums, it's always about a runaway greenhouse effect
Yes I a closed system
I’m a closed system
Let’s say a jar
The temperature doesn’t increase to infinity
If you shine a light on it
black body radiation and entropy would like a word
it's not a closed system
it can be considered closed for some investigations
As energy levels increase more energy leaves.
Changing co2 changes this
Allowing for more energy to stay to a point till more energy starts to leave
So the temperature is higher
if you continually heat a gas in a container, does it reach an equilibrium, or does it get so hot the pressure increases to the point where the jar explodes?
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@johny1846 The earth's atmosphere is not a closed system
We’ll shine constant light on the container the amount it radiates equals the amount it gains after a while
gasses, heat, light etc. all escape the atmosphere
I'm done here, it's impossible to debate with someone who is ideologically possessed
You can do this experiment yourself. Get a jar start with just air shine a light on it measure the temperature after a while it will reach and equilibrium. Slowly increase the co2 concentrations and see how the equilibrium changes. @Downfall Vision these changes aren’t going to change the temperature as much as changing this equilibrium point