Message from @johny1846
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I do, when they control the political landscape it's dangerous
I mean I don’t care if they with the broader scope of if something is true or not.
you never adequately explained how high CO2 levels didn't lead to ever increasing temps
Carboniferous period had CO2 levels ~1500ppm and yet temp was 3~12 degrees higher
why did the high temps not lead to more CO2 and the runaway effect?
it doesn't matter how much time anything has to adapt, your contention is that CO2 produces a temp increase
why did this not occurr during the carboniferous and other high CO2 periods?
Why didn’t it lead to a runaway effect? Because plants grew because of higher co2 levels and took co2 out of the air
you think plants can grow faster than the sun can input energy into the atmosphere?
I don't
for plants to stop a net increase in temp they wouuld have to lock away CO2 at an alarming rate
especially at ~1500ppm
What do you mean input energy into a system? co2 levels change equilibriums so temps raise it doesn’t keep trapping energy for ever
So energy can’t leave
uuhhhh, isn't that what you call the greenhouse effect?
if 400ppm co2 will cause a catastrophic rate of temp increase, what rate of temp increase do you think 1500ppm would produce?
how would plants even catch up?
Catch up with what
the rate of temp increase
it increases with increasing CO2
no, that would be ridiculous
So co2 levels and temperature have a equilibrium.
Temperature won’t just keep increasing
To infinity
it should get as hot as venus, if climate scientists are to be believed
No it shouldn’t Venus is 96% carbon dioxide and has a thicker atmosphere. While 1500ppm is waaaaaay less then what Venus has.
We would expect a huge temperature difference and we do
I think Venus has 86 million ppm
It what it says
I've never heard a single climate person talk about equilibriums, it's always about a runaway greenhouse effect
Yes I a closed system
I’m a closed system
Let’s say a jar
The temperature doesn’t increase to infinity
If you shine a light on it
black body radiation and entropy would like a word
it's not a closed system
it can be considered closed for some investigations
As energy levels increase more energy leaves.
Changing co2 changes this