Message from @johny1846
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No it shouldn’t Venus is 96% carbon dioxide and has a thicker atmosphere. While 1500ppm is waaaaaay less then what Venus has.
We would expect a huge temperature difference and we do
I think Venus has 86 million ppm
It what it says
I've never heard a single climate person talk about equilibriums, it's always about a runaway greenhouse effect
Yes I a closed system
I’m a closed system
Let’s say a jar
The temperature doesn’t increase to infinity
If you shine a light on it
black body radiation and entropy would like a word
it's not a closed system
it can be considered closed for some investigations
As energy levels increase more energy leaves.
Changing co2 changes this
Allowing for more energy to stay to a point till more energy starts to leave
So the temperature is higher
if you continually heat a gas in a container, does it reach an equilibrium, or does it get so hot the pressure increases to the point where the jar explodes?
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@johny1846 The earth's atmosphere is not a closed system
We’ll shine constant light on the container the amount it radiates equals the amount it gains after a while
gasses, heat, light etc. all escape the atmosphere
I'm done here, it's impossible to debate with someone who is ideologically possessed
You can do this experiment yourself. Get a jar start with just air shine a light on it measure the temperature after a while it will reach and equilibrium. Slowly increase the co2 concentrations and see how the equilibrium changes. @Downfall Vision these changes aren’t going to change the temperature as much as changing this equilibrium point
"A light" is not equatable to our Sun! FFS
im going to put the jar into a fire
along with this debate
@johny1846 if you then put in some living organisms which soak up CO2 and exhaust Oxygen what happens?
also what control measures are in place for this "experiment"?
how can you be sure that the light level coming from the light to the jar is comparable to the light coming from our sun to earth?
Sure having living organisms fuck up the equilibrium point they will increase the co2 levels and decrease.
Them
So your experiment is meaningless in terms of earth's climate
Nope
It’s shows that co2 changes the equilibrium point
okay
so what?
that doesn't prove that we are heading towards a climate crisis
Other factors changing the co2 levels fucking up the equilibrium doesn’t change this fact
it just proves that CO2 will contribute to the overall temperature of the earth, just like many other elements will
We need the climate crisis because it will makes things colder which means the blacks while move out