what's really going on is that we have no access to the world except through the lens and matrix by which we interpret and organize phenomena, the brain

@fuguer he uses the term to describe the breaking of existing functionality for short-term adaptation. Rather than creating new functionality all together. Like stunting beak length, for example

nice beauty mask

so it appears concrete to us

yes, of course most mutations are harmful

but not all

yes

I like evolution, if gives us a strong ideological basis for race and differences.

We should embrace & accept this reality.

and you have no concept of the time scales involved, the # of organiisms, generations, cellular reproduction

the dyer/darth position doesn't rely on positive evidence

well, even the "harmful" mutation can be beneficial. For example, the adaptation to malaria. It's actually just broken functionality

Ahhhhhhh

The best counter evolution I've heard of is what if a bunch of organisms were created at the same time by aliens and then evolved as normal AFTER that?

Cambrian explosion maybe.

thats not a counter thats a "wouldnt it be cool if"

but we dont need aliens to explain cambrian explusion

mutations is how we get X-men..
so, necessary for the next step in human evolution

the problem with that is that it just pushes it back one step

Tfw you'll never smell her gooch

show bob

you then have to ask: what causes the aliens to be alive?

god

so it doesn't solve the problem at all

apply occam's razor

and get rid of the aliens

@fuguer he also argues that the likelihood of dependent mutations occurring increases exponentially. Theyve shown that just two gene mutations needed could take 100m - 1b generations to occur successfully

aliens are angels
check mate!

@fuguer how would you prove common descent from a few organisms vs descent from dozens or hundreds of organisms created separately though

me vs duck and nerth

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trivially

common descent shows up clearly in the genetics

well, I'll read some rebuttals now, I just finished the book today

How?

it does, not a super straight line as we don't have the dna of extinct shit, but what we have, makes alot of sense @fuguer

There would be a lot of descent from those many common ancestors

like all science, if evolution is true, then we expect to find genetic patterns consistent with it... and every single time we check, we do