Message from @tienXtreme

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2019-10-28 01:18:06 UTC  

climate change , saving black ppl and vaping

2019-10-28 01:18:11 UTC  

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2019-10-28 01:18:13 UTC  

@Nerthulas Whatever system of logic you deploy, it must reign supreme in order to achieve coherence

2019-10-28 01:18:14 UTC  

The body has so many obvious 'design' flaws, that no engineer would make us this way.

2019-10-28 01:18:14 UTC  

science

2019-10-28 01:18:25 UTC  

what's really going on is that we have no access to the world except through the lens and matrix by which we interpret and organize phenomena, the brain

2019-10-28 01:18:26 UTC  

@fuguer he uses the term to describe the breaking of existing functionality for short-term adaptation. Rather than creating new functionality all together. Like stunting beak length, for example

2019-10-28 01:18:26 UTC  

nice beauty mask

2019-10-28 01:18:29 UTC  

so it appears concrete to us

2019-10-28 01:18:49 UTC  

yes, of course most mutations are harmful

2019-10-28 01:18:53 UTC  

but not all

2019-10-28 01:18:54 UTC  

yes

2019-10-28 01:19:07 UTC  

I like evolution, if gives us a strong ideological basis for race and differences.

2019-10-28 01:19:14 UTC  

We should embrace & accept this reality.

2019-10-28 01:19:20 UTC  

and you have no concept of the time scales involved, the # of organiisms, generations, cellular reproduction

2019-10-28 01:19:27 UTC  

the dyer/darth position doesn't rely on positive evidence

2019-10-28 01:19:31 UTC  

well, even the "harmful" mutation can be beneficial. For example, the adaptation to malaria. It's actually just broken functionality

2019-10-28 01:19:32 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/638185048339906572/70989591_238946063738617_2696235862810686011_n.jpg

2019-10-28 01:19:37 UTC  

Ahhhhhhh

2019-10-28 01:19:46 UTC  

The best counter evolution I've heard of is what if a bunch of organisms were created at the same time by aliens and then evolved as normal AFTER that?

2019-10-28 01:19:53 UTC  

Cambrian explosion maybe.

2019-10-28 01:19:56 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/638185149497868298/70762810_1242814042590098_6509201317047688768_n.jpg

2019-10-28 01:20:07 UTC  

thats not a counter thats a "wouldnt it be cool if"

2019-10-28 01:20:15 UTC  

but we dont need aliens to explain cambrian explusion

2019-10-28 01:20:23 UTC  

mutations is how we get X-men..
so, necessary for the next step in human evolution

2019-10-28 01:20:23 UTC  

the problem with that is that it just pushes it back one step

2019-10-28 01:20:24 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/638185263713091584/72149020_1697570480383001_4760372707066190382_n.jpg

2019-10-28 01:20:32 UTC  

Tfw you'll never smell her gooch

2019-10-28 01:20:32 UTC  

show bob

2019-10-28 01:20:37 UTC  

you then have to ask: what causes the aliens to be alive?

2019-10-28 01:20:42 UTC  

god

2019-10-28 01:20:42 UTC  

so it doesn't solve the problem at all

2019-10-28 01:20:49 UTC  

apply occam's razor

2019-10-28 01:20:52 UTC  

and get rid of the aliens

2019-10-28 01:20:59 UTC  

@fuguer he also argues that the likelihood of dependent mutations occurring increases exponentially. Theyve shown that just two gene mutations needed could take 100m - 1b generations to occur successfully

2019-10-28 01:21:03 UTC  

aliens are angels
check mate!

2019-10-28 01:21:07 UTC  

@fuguer how would you prove common descent from a few organisms vs descent from dozens or hundreds of organisms created separately though

2019-10-28 01:21:20 UTC  

me vs duck and nerth

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/638185499110014986/240.png

2019-10-28 01:21:26 UTC  

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2019-10-28 01:21:57 UTC  

trivially

2019-10-28 01:22:08 UTC  

common descent shows up clearly in the genetics