thats not a counter thats a "wouldnt it be cool if"

but we dont need aliens to explain cambrian explusion

mutations is how we get X-men..
so, necessary for the next step in human evolution

the problem with that is that it just pushes it back one step

Tfw you'll never smell her gooch

show bob

you then have to ask: what causes the aliens to be alive?

god

so it doesn't solve the problem at all

apply occam's razor

and get rid of the aliens

@fuguer he also argues that the likelihood of dependent mutations occurring increases exponentially. Theyve shown that just two gene mutations needed could take 100m - 1b generations to occur successfully

aliens are angels
check mate!

@fuguer how would you prove common descent from a few organisms vs descent from dozens or hundreds of organisms created separately though

me vs duck and nerth

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trivially

common descent shows up clearly in the genetics

well, I'll read some rebuttals now, I just finished the book today

How?

it does, not a super straight line as we don't have the dna of extinct shit, but what we have, makes alot of sense @fuguer

There would be a lot of descent from those many common ancestors

like all science, if evolution is true, then we expect to find genetic patterns consistent with it... and every single time we check, we do

well he doesn't deny the progression that has occured

for example, all the organisms might have a broken gene from a past mutation

So how do you know its inconsistent with multiple common ancestors?

he's not saying humans were just created, or that we didn't evolve

if they were all created separately theres no reason to expect them to share the same dysfunctional dna

yes, he doesn't deny we share the same ancestor

but its precisely what we expect with evolution

and we see it time and time again

Are you saying there are super old mutations that 90% of living things have?

yes

all he denies is the way by which new functionality is created

He says it is not through random mutations

again one example just for humans is vitamin C gene

Humans are not 90% of life on earth

we have a PERFECT copy of vitamin c synthesizing gene, but ours is broken, because our primate ancestors had so much fruit they could survive without it

Yes, that's an example of devolution @fuguer

lol