Message from @fuguer
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with the death of the human race
Infidel
Convert2Islam(*this)
The thing with arguing the existence of god is that god doesn’t physically exist on the material plane.
It’s basically trying to use empirical means to prove the ephemeral
right just debating gods existence is pointless
Or let me rephrase, he doesn’t exist in material plane, so using material means to prove god’s existence is useless
Right
It’s so 2007 lol
Imagine still debating atheism vs theism in 2019
you can debate, is there any evidence of god's actions that show we can't exclude the hypothesis of god's existence
JF nailed it on universality, these logic-cucks dont even understand logic
The Eternal Boomer
My degrees are all in Math, and i view these religious philosophers as brainlets in a place they dont belong
"ooooh you know the excluded middle"
Logos
do you know that's one part of de-morgan's laws
do you know there's other formulations of logic such as three value church logic?
they know nothing
Do you think logic can be used to try to prove god’s existence?
pure logic by itself? no. could we use logic to evaluate evidence and reason that it's highly consistent with god's existence, absolutely.
Interesting
the problem for religious people is that no such evidence has ever been found
Depends on what the evidence is, or definition
there's no observed phenomena for which god is the only or even the best explanation
and in fact most of our best scientific theories would preclude the traditional notions of god.
You mean as in a universal definition or experience of god?
Whatever happened to the concept of faith? I guess it died with the enlightenment
well for example, an omniscient god is incompatible with quantum mechanics.
Yeah enlightenment fucked us up pretty good lol
🤔
What about string theory
the no cloning theorem means its impossible to copy a quantum state, which means you cannot observe a quantum state and know its value without changing it
so omniscience is impossible
🤔
the no cloning theorem is based on the most basic elements of linear algebra and quantum Hamiltonian
the entire reason classical reality exists and winds up smeared out and fuzzy is because you can't copy quantum states, you can only approximate them via statistics
ha!
you just need a Heisenberg compensator..
lol yeah
come on, that's like, day 1 in star fleet