Right

and if god exists and created the universe, then evolution could be his mechanism for creation

i dont see a necessary contradiction

These concepts are all closely related, Russell's set paradox, Richard's paradox, liar's paradox.

if you can have logical paradoxes, you can have unprovably true statements.

It's also mathematically equivalent to the halting problem (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem)

The halting problem means, if you have the code for a program, can you guarantee if it will finish in finite time or run forever

And Turing proved its not possible.

These problems are beautiful because theyre all the same problem seen a different way

a logical symmetry if you will

ConvertEveryoneToIslam.exe

that programwill finish in finite time

with the death of the human race

Infidel

Convert2Islam(*this)

The thing with arguing the existence of god is that god doesn’t physically exist on the material plane.
It’s basically trying to use empirical means to prove the ephemeral

right just debating gods existence is pointless

Or let me rephrase, he doesn’t exist in material plane, so using material means to prove god’s existence is useless

Right

It’s so 2007 lol

Imagine still debating atheism vs theism in 2019

you can debate, is there any evidence of god's actions that show we can't exclude the hypothesis of god's existence

JF nailed it on universality, these logic-cucks dont even understand logic

The Eternal Boomer

My degrees are all in Math, and i view these religious philosophers as brainlets in a place they dont belong

"ooooh you know the excluded middle"

Logos

do you know that's one part of de-morgan's laws

do you know there's other formulations of logic such as three value church logic?

they know nothing

Do you think logic can be used to try to prove god’s existence?

pure logic by itself? no. could we use logic to evaluate evidence and reason that it's highly consistent with god's existence, absolutely.

Interesting

the problem for religious people is that no such evidence has ever been found

Depends on what the evidence is, or definition

there's no observed phenomena for which god is the only or even the best explanation

and in fact most of our best scientific theories would preclude the traditional notions of god.

You mean as in a universal definition or experience of god?

Whatever happened to the concept of faith? I guess it died with the enlightenment

well for example, an omniscient god is incompatible with quantum mechanics.