Message from @Bee
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you can debate, is there any evidence of god's actions that show we can't exclude the hypothesis of god's existence
JF nailed it on universality, these logic-cucks dont even understand logic
The Eternal Boomer
My degrees are all in Math, and i view these religious philosophers as brainlets in a place they dont belong
"ooooh you know the excluded middle"
Logos
do you know that's one part of de-morgan's laws
do you know there's other formulations of logic such as three value church logic?
they know nothing
Do you think logic can be used to try to prove god’s existence?
pure logic by itself? no. could we use logic to evaluate evidence and reason that it's highly consistent with god's existence, absolutely.
Interesting
the problem for religious people is that no such evidence has ever been found
Depends on what the evidence is, or definition
there's no observed phenomena for which god is the only or even the best explanation
and in fact most of our best scientific theories would preclude the traditional notions of god.
You mean as in a universal definition or experience of god?
Whatever happened to the concept of faith? I guess it died with the enlightenment
well for example, an omniscient god is incompatible with quantum mechanics.
🤔
What about string theory
the no cloning theorem means its impossible to copy a quantum state, which means you cannot observe a quantum state and know its value without changing it
so omniscience is impossible
🤔
the no cloning theorem is based on the most basic elements of linear algebra and quantum Hamiltonian
the entire reason classical reality exists and winds up smeared out and fuzzy is because you can't copy quantum states, you can only approximate them via statistics
ha!
you just need a Heisenberg compensator..
lol yeah
come on, that's like, day 1 in star fleet
that and self sealing stembolts.
is there anything those things can't do!?
> tfw I’m just a brainlet and know nothing of quantum mechanics etc <:horrified:603092309307031560>
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Well it took me many years to learn all this stuff, and I started with advanced understanding of mathematics already
But to me its most satisfying to base my philosophy around experimentally observed science, not head in the clouds writings from 200 years ago.
Yeah I’m not really a math guy either, though I could probably get more into it.
I’m more of an ideas/humanities type of guy
QM >>DESTROYS<< our concept of time and causality
It also destroyed our morality also 😎