Message from @Nerthulas

Discord ID: 638935527571193878


2019-10-30 02:59:59 UTC  

@Str3tch, what makes genes?

2019-10-30 03:00:04 UTC  

hey, where did GENES come from?

2019-10-30 03:00:10 UTC  

East Asians have higher intelligence, Africans have higher height. Neither is superior to, or equal to the other.

2019-10-30 03:00:19 UTC  

I guess genes created the big bang.

2019-10-30 03:00:22 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/638935199245402133/4ca52bc4b7ba86f31de2f0df0eda727d.png

2019-10-30 03:00:27 UTC  

Genes create environment, after all

2019-10-30 03:00:30 UTC  

@BabygottBach u <:kekboi:417880491182653450>

2019-10-30 03:00:35 UTC  

the environment and culture is the output of other ppl's genes

2019-10-30 03:00:41 UTC  

Where

2019-10-30 03:00:42 UTC  

did

2019-10-30 03:00:43 UTC  

the reality is that there is a continuum of related living organisms who differ in traits, and that we can draw circles around groups of organisms with some level of similarity

2019-10-30 03:00:45 UTC  

genes

2019-10-30 03:00:46 UTC  

genes can shape environment and environment shapes genes

2019-10-30 03:00:47 UTC  

FIRST

2019-10-30 03:00:48 UTC  

come from?

2019-10-30 03:00:49 UTC  

Are individuals with, for example, hereditary disease, indistinct in ability and behaviour from other individuals free of such disease? @BabygottBach

2019-10-30 03:01:17 UTC  

genes came from RNA

2019-10-30 03:01:35 UTC  

@Leaf, ofc not. How does this impact the discussion about genetic determinist narratives about history?

2019-10-30 03:01:35 UTC  

epigenetics won't make jamal a genius

2019-10-30 03:01:37 UTC  

actually you are on the discord of one of the foremost theorists of the relationship between RNA and DNA

2019-10-30 03:01:40 UTC  

currently

2019-10-30 03:01:57 UTC  

@Nerthulas, right. And where did RNA come from?

2019-10-30 03:02:07 UTC  

RNA came from more simple proteins

2019-10-30 03:02:17 UTC  

Where did they come from?

2019-10-30 03:02:18 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/638935683205038081/5a787c592d09b.png

2019-10-30 03:02:24 UTC  

Yeah gene-culture coevolution is basically confirmed at this point. Lots of evidence for self-domestication in humans (the degree to which also differs between races btw)

2019-10-30 03:02:31 UTC  

they came from chemical elements

2019-10-30 03:02:32 UTC  

Ultimately, environment produced genes.

2019-10-30 03:02:38 UTC  

nurture IS nature

2019-10-30 03:02:38 UTC  

you can find simple protein anywhere in space

2019-10-30 03:02:39 UTC  

@BabygottBach RNA came from doing your mom doing your mom

2019-10-30 03:02:39 UTC  

yes...

2019-10-30 03:02:42 UTC  

The environment was here long before genes were.

2019-10-30 03:02:43 UTC  

<:dab:395562678153904128>

2019-10-30 03:02:45 UTC  

nature is nurture, yes

2019-10-30 03:03:02 UTC  

isn't nurture product or nature?

2019-10-30 03:03:08 UTC  

yes

2019-10-30 03:03:11 UTC  

ofc

2019-10-30 03:03:17 UTC  

chicken or egg

2019-10-30 03:03:19 UTC  

we're not talking about air temperature

2019-10-30 03:03:29 UTC  

So whoever was attributing primacy to genes in the gene environment relation has it completely backwards.