genes

genes can shape environment and environment shapes genes

FIRST

come from?

Are individuals with, for example, hereditary disease, indistinct in ability and behaviour from other individuals free of such disease? @BabygottBach

genes came from RNA

@Leaf, ofc not. How does this impact the discussion about genetic determinist narratives about history?

epigenetics won't make jamal a genius

actually you are on the discord of one of the foremost theorists of the relationship between RNA and DNA

currently

@Nerthulas, right. And where did RNA come from?

RNA came from more simple proteins

Where did they come from?

Yeah gene-culture coevolution is basically confirmed at this point. Lots of evidence for self-domestication in humans (the degree to which also differs between races btw)

they came from chemical elements

Ultimately, environment produced genes.

nurture IS nature

you can find simple protein anywhere in space

@BabygottBach RNA came from doing your mom doing your mom

yes...

The environment was here long before genes were.

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nature is nurture, yes

isn't nurture product or nature?

yes

ofc

chicken or egg

we're not talking about air temperature

So whoever was attributing primacy to genes in the gene environment relation has it completely backwards.

@BabygottBach it's entirely related, the relation is the display of the fact that genetic variations can exist within species that significantly and observable create vast disparities in their abilities and behaviours based on genetic predispositions

@that explains the massive and rapid shifts in history? absolutely not.

the man made environment, not the CO2 in the air from a belching volcano

Yes it does

It does exactly that

@BabygottBach genetic biochemistry is basically the same as machine learning you have experiment that works and some that fails

it doesn't change anything to understand environment came first, the point of the gene-environemnt relation model is to show enviroment changes genes changes environment

but genes can lead you to living next to an active volcano

No, it quite literally does not, unless you are proposing that genes of a population somehow shifts at breakneck pae.

ban volcanoes

or a place not suitable for agriculture