Message from @❀Rare Birb❀

Discord ID: 638935231876825103


2019-10-30 02:58:40 UTC  

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2019-10-30 02:58:53 UTC  

With your cheap, copout nuance, @Nerthulas

2019-10-30 02:59:05 UTC  

species classification really is a minor issue because some have higher reproductive rates and other are lower it doesn't change the philosophy that drove the population growth to unsustainable levels

2019-10-30 02:59:07 UTC  

Genes when it serves us, culture and environment when it doesn't

2019-10-30 02:59:08 UTC  

Equal by what metric?

2019-10-30 02:59:13 UTC  

@BabygottBach do you understand that there is a continuum of life, and that 'species' is a relatively arbitrary designation?

2019-10-30 02:59:16 UTC  

Are individuals with, for example, hereditary disease, indistinct in ability and behaviour from other individuals free of such disease? @BabygottBach

2019-10-30 02:59:22 UTC  

culture and environment are genes

2019-10-30 02:59:26 UTC  

@Nerthulas you mean like race?

2019-10-30 02:59:26 UTC  

Son of a gun the tag didn't work

2019-10-30 02:59:40 UTC  

until you understand that genes make culture and environment, you will never get anywhere

2019-10-30 02:59:44 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/638935040398589965/xKNUo04mzNGc4TxzEZtLukhPViz7LA-6-QzPgXhW1nI.png

2019-10-30 02:59:45 UTC  

to really understand this chart you need to know how PCA works..... geneetic differences can be considered as an extremely high dimensional vector space. no way to visualize. principal component analysis breaks this down and projects it into 2 dimensions like a shadow. PCA1 is the most significant variation. PCA2 is the 2nd most significant variation that's orthogonal to the first. you cant compare scale between X and Y theyre different units. WE see here that african genetics are on a completely different level compared to all other human races on PC1, the most significant axis.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/638935042768502795/indo1.png

2019-10-30 02:59:54 UTC  

yes, race is a relatively arbitrary designation, you can draw races wide or small, specific or broad

2019-10-30 02:59:59 UTC  

@Str3tch, what makes genes?

2019-10-30 03:00:04 UTC  

hey, where did GENES come from?

2019-10-30 03:00:10 UTC  

East Asians have higher intelligence, Africans have higher height. Neither is superior to, or equal to the other.

2019-10-30 03:00:19 UTC  

I guess genes created the big bang.

2019-10-30 03:00:22 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/638935199245402133/4ca52bc4b7ba86f31de2f0df0eda727d.png

2019-10-30 03:00:27 UTC  

Genes create environment, after all

2019-10-30 03:00:30 UTC  

@BabygottBach u <:kekboi:417880491182653450>

2019-10-30 03:00:35 UTC  

the environment and culture is the output of other ppl's genes

2019-10-30 03:00:41 UTC  

Where

2019-10-30 03:00:42 UTC  

did

2019-10-30 03:00:43 UTC  

the reality is that there is a continuum of related living organisms who differ in traits, and that we can draw circles around groups of organisms with some level of similarity

2019-10-30 03:00:45 UTC  

genes

2019-10-30 03:00:46 UTC  

genes can shape environment and environment shapes genes

2019-10-30 03:00:47 UTC  

FIRST

2019-10-30 03:00:48 UTC  

come from?

2019-10-30 03:00:49 UTC  

Are individuals with, for example, hereditary disease, indistinct in ability and behaviour from other individuals free of such disease? @BabygottBach

2019-10-30 03:01:17 UTC  

genes came from RNA

2019-10-30 03:01:35 UTC  

@Leaf, ofc not. How does this impact the discussion about genetic determinist narratives about history?

2019-10-30 03:01:35 UTC  

epigenetics won't make jamal a genius

2019-10-30 03:01:37 UTC  

actually you are on the discord of one of the foremost theorists of the relationship between RNA and DNA

2019-10-30 03:01:40 UTC  

currently

2019-10-30 03:01:57 UTC  

@Nerthulas, right. And where did RNA come from?

2019-10-30 03:02:07 UTC  

RNA came from more simple proteins

2019-10-30 03:02:17 UTC  

Where did they come from?

2019-10-30 03:02:18 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/638935683205038081/5a787c592d09b.png

2019-10-30 03:02:24 UTC  

Yeah gene-culture coevolution is basically confirmed at this point. Lots of evidence for self-domestication in humans (the degree to which also differs between races btw)

2019-10-30 03:02:31 UTC  

they came from chemical elements