Message from @BabygottBach
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the environment and culture is the output of other ppl's genes
Where
did
the reality is that there is a continuum of related living organisms who differ in traits, and that we can draw circles around groups of organisms with some level of similarity
genes
genes can shape environment and environment shapes genes
FIRST
come from?
Are individuals with, for example, hereditary disease, indistinct in ability and behaviour from other individuals free of such disease? @BabygottBach
genes came from RNA
@Leaf, ofc not. How does this impact the discussion about genetic determinist narratives about history?
epigenetics won't make jamal a genius
actually you are on the discord of one of the foremost theorists of the relationship between RNA and DNA
currently
@Nerthulas, right. And where did RNA come from?
RNA came from more simple proteins
Where did they come from?
Yeah gene-culture coevolution is basically confirmed at this point. Lots of evidence for self-domestication in humans (the degree to which also differs between races btw)
they came from chemical elements
nurture IS nature
you can find simple protein anywhere in space
@BabygottBach RNA came from doing your mom doing your mom
yes...
The environment was here long before genes were.
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nature is nurture, yes
isn't nurture product or nature?
yes
ofc
chicken or egg
we're not talking about air temperature
So whoever was attributing primacy to genes in the gene environment relation has it completely backwards.
@BabygottBach it's entirely related, the relation is the display of the fact that genetic variations can exist within species that significantly and observable create vast disparities in their abilities and behaviours based on genetic predispositions
@that explains the massive and rapid shifts in history? absolutely not.
the man made environment, not the CO2 in the air from a belching volcano
Yes it does
It does exactly that
@BabygottBach genetic biochemistry is basically the same as machine learning you have experiment that works and some that fails
it doesn't change anything to understand environment came first, the point of the gene-environemnt relation model is to show enviroment changes genes changes environment