values are subjective and relative. Objective morality would have to come from some type of metaphysics

Suddenly there's someone tapping a different set of basic rules or dynamics

Yes, the black box
How or why it happened is not necessary
Just that it did
Which is the nature of a miracle

That's the basis

Well

Not even a black box

the way the genes translate this to personal experience of morals in your control loop is irrelevant

It is at first

genetically this is what morals are

But the miracle doer explicates

Thus the religion forms

And insofar as he has a monopoly on that miracle, or others, he's unrivaled

Shouldn't he define the miracle within the target system/axiom though?

So unique, unrivaled access to an authority

genetics do not completely determine moral values. moral values are the lowest in terms of heritability

@Banjod What percentage of everything does your concept of good include?

miracles are neither necessary nor good

@Deleted User well... lol

morals are typical behaviours

fried in

morals are not behaviors but beliefs of good and bad

nah

that translate into behaviours

thats higher abstraction of it

@Trommm I'm a little tired rn, but it's a ranking system, so going through how exactly you would find the best good is hard.

Your religion will have to be neo-liberal pragmatism without miracles

it all depends

no its the other way around

of what you sat

say

higher level abstraction is contingent upon many rational moral valuations

first comes the firmware lower level stuff

but you can name two things, and I can tell you which is the better ideal..

lol

then the higher level loop

when we moralize we abstract

(consciousness)

decisions are filtered into the frontal lobe

A world populated entirely by Jews. Or populated entirely by Germans.

so there has to be a level of abstraction no matter what

and then things often times loop