Message from @troglodytes
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Thus is grants ***tremendous*** authority
values are subjective and relative. Objective morality would have to come from some type of metaphysics
Suddenly there's someone tapping a different set of basic rules or dynamics
Yes, the black box
How or why it happened is not necessary
Just that it did
Which is the nature of a miracle
That's the basis
Well
Not even a black box
the way the genes translate this to personal experience of morals in your control loop is irrelevant
It is at first
genetically this is what morals are
But the miracle doer explicates
Thus the religion forms
And insofar as he has a monopoly on that miracle, or others, he's unrivaled
Shouldn't he define the miracle within the target system/axiom though?
So unique, unrivaled access to an authority
genetics do not completely determine moral values. moral values are the lowest in terms of heritability
@Banjod What percentage of everything does your concept of good include?
miracles are neither necessary nor good
@Deleted User well... lol
morals are typical behaviours
morals are not behaviors but beliefs of good and bad
nah
that translate into behaviours
thats higher abstraction of it
@Trommm I'm a little tired rn, but it's a ranking system, so going through how exactly you would find the best good is hard.
Your religion will have to be neo-liberal pragmatism without miracles
it all depends
no its the other way around
of what you sat
say
higher level abstraction is contingent upon many rational moral valuations
first comes the firmware lower level stuff
but you can name two things, and I can tell you which is the better ideal..
lol
then the higher level loop
when we moralize we abstract
(consciousness)
decisions are filtered into the frontal lobe
A world populated entirely by Jews. Or populated entirely by Germans.
so there has to be a level of abstraction no matter what