Message from @ALternativeToLife
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@StRexPowerColt so you think morality is created by people, there’s a truth and morality in the universe?
his position if iirc is something like "these strategies that we call morality are a result of the objective statement that they are the result of things positive to grp survival so therefore it's objective"
but as i said
it's an obj statement about something subj it doesn't make it obj
@Weaboo Kempeitai I blame the weird cat breed breeders
@The Eternal Swede It seems happy though.
"Let's just make 'fancy cats' to the point that they are barely even viable to live"
Well, he is making subjective claims. But using an objective manner. It’s grounded in group fitness.
I mean in a sense we can say it’s objective since it’s a survival strategy, so what ever works the best is obviously the best
Agree. Many intentionally bred munchkins come out with defects. Their bones sort of give out on them or somthing.
It would be a natural law morality.
But still, that cat looks happy.
No reason to put it down.
Like might is right.
Yeah, happiness is relative so I'm sure it's happy
The Definition of “best” isn’t good though since with different genetics, cultures and geography “best” change from tribe to tribe
Can't miss something you never had, it's like being born blind as opposed to going blind.
But breeding cats like that seems like a shitty thing to do
I remember watching this video of kids trying to describe colour to sombody who was blind from birth but he seemed to get frustrated by it.
Are you saying that since it varies, it’s not objective?
@The Eternal Swede I don't think it was intentionally bred this way, but may be a product of sombody attempting to breed a munchkin. Sombody in the comments said it had some sort of bone infection.
Well implicitly yeah I am
Though pointing it out like that makes me feel fucking stupid
It’s a fair point.
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@Weaboo Kempeitai I mean breeding any breed similar to munchkins in pushing the line of viability
But I think when you use the term objective, it’s something that can be empirical or standard.
The standard being a group fitness.
I hate those ugly little purse dogs we breed as well
Abominable
morning everyone
@Nerthulas go back to sleep.
why?
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what happened
I told you to go back to sleep.
@Hector I believe there is an underlying truth in the universe (Logos), and that things that conflict with that truth (which you can figure out through metaphysics and other such things with reson logic and evidence) are degenerate, or if they hurt someone besides oneself, evil.
American Conservativism
There are safe ways to breed munchkins though, apparently ones bred from Scottish Folds are the ones with defects, though people debate the efficacy of breeding them at all. People don't really want to regard them as a legitimate breed.
Lot of dog and cat breeds are basically the product of purposeful dysgenics. Intentionally breeding defects because they look cute. Now we have bulldogs who can barely breath.