Message from @The Eternal Swede

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2019-11-02 15:37:05 UTC  

Yeah I hate saying morality is subjective, because I think cultures aren’t equal, but that would imply it’s objective

2019-11-02 15:37:13 UTC  

Some I’m contradicting myself here

2019-11-02 15:37:33 UTC  
2019-11-02 15:37:36 UTC  

@StRexPowerColt so you think morality is created by people, there’s a truth and morality in the universe?

2019-11-02 15:37:40 UTC  

his position if iirc is something like "these strategies that we call morality are a result of the objective statement that they are the result of things positive to grp survival so therefore it's objective"

2019-11-02 15:37:44 UTC  

but as i said

2019-11-02 15:37:58 UTC  

it's an obj statement about something subj it doesn't make it obj

2019-11-02 15:38:00 UTC  

@Weaboo Kempeitai I blame the weird cat breed breeders

2019-11-02 15:38:11 UTC  

@The Eternal Swede It seems happy though.

2019-11-02 15:38:16 UTC  

"Let's just make 'fancy cats' to the point that they are barely even viable to live"

2019-11-02 15:38:22 UTC  

Well, he is making subjective claims. But using an objective manner. It’s grounded in group fitness.

2019-11-02 15:38:41 UTC  

I mean in a sense we can say it’s objective since it’s a survival strategy, so what ever works the best is obviously the best

2019-11-02 15:38:54 UTC  

Agree. Many intentionally bred munchkins come out with defects. Their bones sort of give out on them or somthing.

2019-11-02 15:39:03 UTC  

It would be a natural law morality.

2019-11-02 15:39:06 UTC  

But still, that cat looks happy.

2019-11-02 15:39:15 UTC  

No reason to put it down.

2019-11-02 15:39:15 UTC  

Like might is right.

2019-11-02 15:39:20 UTC  

Yeah, happiness is relative so I'm sure it's happy

2019-11-02 15:39:21 UTC  

The Definition of “best” isn’t good though since with different genetics, cultures and geography “best” change from tribe to tribe

2019-11-02 15:39:36 UTC  

Can't miss something you never had, it's like being born blind as opposed to going blind.

2019-11-02 15:39:42 UTC  

But breeding cats like that seems like a shitty thing to do

2019-11-02 15:40:12 UTC  

I remember watching this video of kids trying to describe colour to sombody who was blind from birth but he seemed to get frustrated by it.

2019-11-02 15:40:30 UTC  

Are you saying that since it varies, it’s not objective?

2019-11-02 15:40:48 UTC  

@The Eternal Swede I don't think it was intentionally bred this way, but may be a product of sombody attempting to breed a munchkin. Sombody in the comments said it had some sort of bone infection.

2019-11-02 15:40:57 UTC  

Well implicitly yeah I am

2019-11-02 15:41:11 UTC  

Though pointing it out like that makes me feel fucking stupid

2019-11-02 15:41:32 UTC  

It’s a fair point.

2019-11-02 15:41:55 UTC  

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2019-11-02 15:41:58 UTC  

@Weaboo Kempeitai I mean breeding any breed similar to munchkins in pushing the line of viability

2019-11-02 15:42:00 UTC  

But I think when you use the term objective, it’s something that can be empirical or standard.

2019-11-02 15:42:09 UTC  

The standard being a group fitness.

2019-11-02 15:42:14 UTC  

I hate those ugly little purse dogs we breed as well

2019-11-02 15:42:19 UTC  

Abominable

2019-11-02 15:42:21 UTC  

morning everyone

2019-11-02 15:42:29 UTC  

@Nerthulas go back to sleep.

2019-11-02 15:42:33 UTC  

why?

2019-11-02 15:42:43 UTC  

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2019-11-02 15:42:46 UTC  

what happened

2019-11-02 15:42:49 UTC  

I told you to go back to sleep.