Message from @Nerthulas

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2019-11-02 15:43:41 UTC  

Whew morality is a tough one but at least here people are willing to talk about it unlike most normies

2019-11-02 15:44:06 UTC  

@StRexPowerColt let me ask you a question. Is morality outside of men, a part of the universe and truth?

2019-11-02 15:44:21 UTC  

People get angry when you discuss morality like it’s a disgusting horrible fact

2019-11-02 15:44:25 UTC  

Munchkins are very restricted in their ability to move around. It's very unfair. Most of a cat's recreational activities revolve around chasing things. It's their literal purpose to catch prey for you. It's what's ingrained in their evolution.

2019-11-02 15:44:25 UTC  

not even the universe is outside of man

2019-11-02 15:44:59 UTC  

I’m planning reading some books on morality.

2019-11-02 15:45:15 UTC  

Frankly, I’m a Christcuck as many of you say.

2019-11-02 15:46:06 UTC  

can you make a quick summary of why you believe that objective morality exists

2019-11-02 15:46:16 UTC  

@Hector Try After Virtue by Alasdair MacIntyre.

2019-11-02 15:46:29 UTC  

there are usually a few different basic classifications

2019-11-02 15:46:30 UTC  

I don’t hate Christians or anti theist

2019-11-02 15:46:52 UTC  

Well, I believe in God and evolution. So I think that we can create a morality from the true, which I think you can slavery morality. @Nerthulas

2019-11-02 15:46:52 UTC  

I just can’t make myself believe that there is a god

2019-11-02 15:47:06 UTC  

what do you mean we can create a morality from the true?

2019-11-02 15:47:15 UTC  

how would we go about doing that

2019-11-02 15:47:22 UTC  

if we create it is it really objective?

2019-11-02 15:47:35 UTC  

@Weaboo Kempeitai got it on my list with real ethics, Genealogy of morality, and Rights and Wrongs.

2019-11-02 15:48:19 UTC  

@Nerthulas by create, I meant a new synthesis. I think it as a morality already exist.

2019-11-02 15:48:53 UTC  

Is that a fair answer?

2019-11-02 15:48:55 UTC  

how do you get by the is-ought question?

2019-11-02 15:49:24 UTC  

I guarantee that anything anybody could come up with would be facetious and purely linguistic

2019-11-02 15:49:36 UTC  

What happens if you drink heavy water?

2019-11-02 15:49:55 UTC  

@Nerthulas well, do numbers exist outside of the mind?

2019-11-02 15:50:11 UTC  

Nerthulas

2019-11-02 15:50:15 UTC  

Quit ruining a non-mutant

2019-11-02 15:50:16 UTC  

no, nothing exists or can be conceived of except as it is modulated by human intelligence

2019-11-02 15:50:22 UTC  

lol

2019-11-02 15:50:25 UTC  

iippo

2019-11-02 15:50:25 UTC  

Frankly, I believe in what you call slavery morality.

2019-11-02 15:50:25 UTC  

Uhh the is ought thing I don’t really think about since I think of it in terms of “this is just the way it is”

2019-11-02 15:50:30 UTC  

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2019-11-02 15:50:34 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/640216186717732865/1572709216812.webm

2019-11-02 15:50:38 UTC  

sup bois

2019-11-02 15:50:38 UTC  

@Hector We are part of the universe, so it is both inside of us and outside of us. The underlying truth (Logos) exist, that which conflicts with it is wrong, that which conflicts with it and hurts other is evil. Logos can only be recongnized by living things, and therefore it is only the job of living things to try not conflict with it (be moral), obviously a rock or grain of sand simply is and cannot disagree wtih Logos, only living thinking things can disagree and go against Logos. To go beyond the morality (which is simply not being immoral) is to be virtuous and uphold Logos.

2019-11-02 15:50:41 UTC  

Vids are hilarious

2019-11-02 15:51:29 UTC  

@StRexPowerColt I would classify you as a moral realist then.

2019-11-02 15:51:33 UTC  

Numbers are apart of reality.

2019-11-02 15:51:40 UTC  

is ought is the difference between the way the world is (positive or descriptive thought) and the way we want it to be (normative or preferential thought)

2019-11-02 15:51:59 UTC  

Numbers are just a way of qualifying reality.

2019-11-02 15:52:14 UTC  

We can do it differently, but there are simples in the universe.