Message from @Nerthulas
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Whew morality is a tough one but at least here people are willing to talk about it unlike most normies
@StRexPowerColt let me ask you a question. Is morality outside of men, a part of the universe and truth?
People get angry when you discuss morality like it’s a disgusting horrible fact
Munchkins are very restricted in their ability to move around. It's very unfair. Most of a cat's recreational activities revolve around chasing things. It's their literal purpose to catch prey for you. It's what's ingrained in their evolution.
not even the universe is outside of man
I’m planning reading some books on morality.
Frankly, I’m a Christcuck as many of you say.
can you make a quick summary of why you believe that objective morality exists
@Hector Try After Virtue by Alasdair MacIntyre.
there are usually a few different basic classifications
I don’t hate Christians or anti theist
Well, I believe in God and evolution. So I think that we can create a morality from the true, which I think you can slavery morality. @Nerthulas
I just can’t make myself believe that there is a god
what do you mean we can create a morality from the true?
how would we go about doing that
if we create it is it really objective?
@Weaboo Kempeitai got it on my list with real ethics, Genealogy of morality, and Rights and Wrongs.
@Nerthulas by create, I meant a new synthesis. I think it as a morality already exist.
Is that a fair answer?
how do you get by the is-ought question?
What happens if you drink heavy water?
@Nerthulas well, do numbers exist outside of the mind?
Nerthulas
Quit ruining a non-mutant
no, nothing exists or can be conceived of except as it is modulated by human intelligence
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Frankly, I believe in what you call slavery morality.
Uhh the is ought thing I don’t really think about since I think of it in terms of “this is just the way it is”
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@Hector We are part of the universe, so it is both inside of us and outside of us. The underlying truth (Logos) exist, that which conflicts with it is wrong, that which conflicts with it and hurts other is evil. Logos can only be recongnized by living things, and therefore it is only the job of living things to try not conflict with it (be moral), obviously a rock or grain of sand simply is and cannot disagree wtih Logos, only living thinking things can disagree and go against Logos. To go beyond the morality (which is simply not being immoral) is to be virtuous and uphold Logos.
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@StRexPowerColt I would classify you as a moral realist then.
Numbers are apart of reality.
is ought is the difference between the way the world is (positive or descriptive thought) and the way we want it to be (normative or preferential thought)
Numbers are just a way of qualifying reality.
We can do it differently, but there are simples in the universe.