Well, I believe in God and evolution. So I think that we can create a morality from the true, which I think you can slavery morality. @Nerthulas

I just can’t make myself believe that there is a god

what do you mean we can create a morality from the true?

how would we go about doing that

if we create it is it really objective?

@Weaboo Kempeitai got it on my list with real ethics, Genealogy of morality, and Rights and Wrongs.

@Nerthulas by create, I meant a new synthesis. I think it as a morality already exist.

Is that a fair answer?

how do you get by the is-ought question?

I guarantee that anything anybody could come up with would be facetious and purely linguistic

What happens if you drink heavy water?

@Nerthulas well, do numbers exist outside of the mind?

Nerthulas

Quit ruining a non-mutant

no, nothing exists or can be conceived of except as it is modulated by human intelligence

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Frankly, I believe in what you call slavery morality.

Uhh the is ought thing I don’t really think about since I think of it in terms of “this is just the way it is”

http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/231885851#p231889725

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@Hector We are part of the universe, so it is both inside of us and outside of us. The underlying truth (Logos) exist, that which conflicts with it is wrong, that which conflicts with it and hurts other is evil. Logos can only be recongnized by living things, and therefore it is only the job of living things to try not conflict with it (be moral), obviously a rock or grain of sand simply is and cannot disagree wtih Logos, only living thinking things can disagree and go against Logos. To go beyond the morality (which is simply not being immoral) is to be virtuous and uphold Logos.

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@StRexPowerColt I would classify you as a moral realist then.

Numbers are apart of reality.

is ought is the difference between the way the world is (positive or descriptive thought) and the way we want it to be (normative or preferential thought)

Numbers are just a way of qualifying reality.

We can do it differently, but there are simples in the universe.

Well @Hector All that I am doing is stating that which was preached by Jesus.

its pretty obvious that the brain is a product of evolution, as are our moral preferences

our moral preferences are just emergent

@Nerthulas the book I recommended you, did you open it yet?

I opened it and looked over it quickly, but I haven't gone into it in depth

does it contain a response to this?

It’s a book about how the mind evolved and difference between a ripple in moral preferences.

But I think morality is outside of people. Just wanted you to know I understand the whole evolution morality thing.

the thing is, the fact that the brain evolved a certain way actually implies nothing about what we ought to do, or the validity of human morality

its just a fact

it doesn't budge is/ought