Message from @Hector
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But I think when you use the term objective, it’s something that can be empirical or standard.
The standard being a group fitness.
I hate those ugly little purse dogs we breed as well
Abominable
morning everyone
@Nerthulas go back to sleep.
why?
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what happened
I told you to go back to sleep.
@Hector I believe there is an underlying truth in the universe (Logos), and that things that conflict with that truth (which you can figure out through metaphysics and other such things with reson logic and evidence) are degenerate, or if they hurt someone besides oneself, evil.
American Conservativism
There are safe ways to breed munchkins though, apparently ones bred from Scottish Folds are the ones with defects, though people debate the efficacy of breeding them at all. People don't really want to regard them as a legitimate breed.
Lot of dog and cat breeds are basically the product of purposeful dysgenics. Intentionally breeding defects because they look cute. Now we have bulldogs who can barely breath.
Whew morality is a tough one but at least here people are willing to talk about it unlike most normies
@StRexPowerColt let me ask you a question. Is morality outside of men, a part of the universe and truth?
People get angry when you discuss morality like it’s a disgusting horrible fact
Munchkins are very restricted in their ability to move around. It's very unfair. Most of a cat's recreational activities revolve around chasing things. It's their literal purpose to catch prey for you. It's what's ingrained in their evolution.
not even the universe is outside of man
I’m planning reading some books on morality.
can you make a quick summary of why you believe that objective morality exists
@Hector Try After Virtue by Alasdair MacIntyre.
there are usually a few different basic classifications
I don’t hate Christians or anti theist
Well, I believe in God and evolution. So I think that we can create a morality from the true, which I think you can slavery morality. @Nerthulas
I just can’t make myself believe that there is a god
what do you mean we can create a morality from the true?
how would we go about doing that
if we create it is it really objective?
@Weaboo Kempeitai got it on my list with real ethics, Genealogy of morality, and Rights and Wrongs.
@Nerthulas by create, I meant a new synthesis. I think it as a morality already exist.
Is that a fair answer?
how do you get by the is-ought question?
I guarantee that anything anybody could come up with would be facetious and purely linguistic
What happens if you drink heavy water?
@Nerthulas well, do numbers exist outside of the mind?
Nerthulas
Quit ruining a non-mutant
no, nothing exists or can be conceived of except as it is modulated by human intelligence
lol