benis

A redpill for u while he finishes

that dog is a coomer

https://twitter.com/WolfishHead/status/1192293137508687872

First let me start out with my claim: Humans do not cluster into racial categories

Reasons why: SCIENCE and BIOLOGY

The scientific justification for race has been debunked for decades, not because of social implications, but because of the evidence in the genetic variation between human populations. There are more variation within a race than between. There are populations in Africa have more variation between them than populations between Europeans and Asians.

We can delve into this topic in many ways. We can conclude that humans cannot cluster into discrete biological categories using traits such as blood, immune system, genetics, body shape and size, skin color, and skull shape. I can argue why for any if you want.

This is not to say there's not variation at all and that we're "all the same" because there are genetic differences between populations, however these differences account for little of the variation between human populations.

more variation within than between is a super super common race denialist talking point that's been debunked about a 1000x now

Lewontins fallacy

Next

damn i thought it was going to be fancy and shit

there's more variation within humans and a particular subspecies of chimp than between them

it literally means nothing

allright boys back to popeyes

I knew you were going to bring Lewontins fallacy. let me explain to you why and how its usually misconstrued.

Literally all lewontins fallacy

Alright explain fren

we can feed a computer genetic data and tell it to sort it into a fixed number of groups, the sole criterion being to maximize genetic distance and it recreates the colloquial races

We know 3 million genes of difference with name and location and all

Cant wait for lewontins refutation

The Lewontins Fallacy doesnt challenge Lewontin’s claim that the between group differences were small, it challenged if you can genetically cluster populations meaningfully.

Jewontin's fallacy

@Yek I promise you don't truly understand Lewontin

Fst = (Ht-Hs)/Ht

Im lazy so ill copy paste
 "However small the racial partition of the total variation may be, if such racial characteristics as there are highly correlate with other racial characteristics, they are by definition informative, and therefore of taxonomic significance."

Dawkins i think

Forgot

explain abbos:

http://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1424796406068.jpg

id love to have scientific names for them

Oh no! Discredited!

negroidus dindonuffinus

So there is a highish fixation rate amongst humans, for one @Yek

That points to valid subspecies

poous indaloous

Further, we don't even determine subspeciation by fixation rates

```A highly cited 1999 paper by the geneticist Alan Templeton claimed that requiring that a subspecies have an Fst value of at least 25%-30% is “standard in the nonhuman literature” (Templeton 1999). Templeton, who uses this claim to argue against the existence of human races, cites the 1997 paper “Subspecies and Classification” by Smith, Chiszar, and Montanucci, to substantiate that this Fst standard is common place in biology (Smith, Chiszar, and Montanucci, 1997.). But Smith et al. 1997 never even mentions Fst values! It appears that Templeton assumed that this is what Smith et al 1997 meant when they wrote that subspecies cannot “overlap in variation of their differentiae” by more than 25%-30%. This is almost surely not a reference to Fst values. Instead, this paper was referencing the so called “75% rule”, which is criteria of subspecies which stated that a population would count as a sub-speices if you could analyze the traits of organisms in the species and, on this basis, predict whether or not they were a member of the proposed subspecies with an error rate of 25% or less. There are several reasons for thinking that Smith et al. 1997 were referring to the 75% rule and not an Fst based criteria for subspecies:```

@fuguer we are still same species (by modern definitions) so they wont have a separate name

anyone who can look at a group of europeans and at a group of abos and tell you with a straight face that there's no meaningful distinction is a liar or a retard

it's like denying that the sky is blue

Holy fuck MMW