Message from @Yek

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2019-11-07 05:01:06 UTC  

We need to hear his btfo of race realism

2019-11-07 05:01:11 UTC  

probably the time of day

2019-11-07 05:01:19 UTC  

Multitask

2019-11-07 05:01:36 UTC  

brace yourselfs for extreme soy gentlemen

2019-11-07 05:01:43 UTC  

Ill make dinner while you finish

2019-11-07 05:01:44 UTC  

<:soyboy:421747339167006724>

2019-11-07 05:02:09 UTC  

the max soy is happen'

2019-11-07 05:02:25 UTC  

benis

2019-11-07 05:03:10 UTC  

A redpill for u while he finishes

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2019-11-07 05:06:00 UTC  

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2019-11-07 05:06:19 UTC  

that dog is a coomer

2019-11-07 05:07:35 UTC  

First let me start out with my claim: Humans do not cluster into racial categories

Reasons why: SCIENCE and BIOLOGY

The scientific justification for race has been debunked for decades, not because of social implications, but because of the evidence in the genetic variation between human populations. There are more variation within a race than between. There are populations in Africa have more variation between them than populations between Europeans and Asians.

We can delve into this topic in many ways. We can conclude that humans cannot cluster into discrete biological categories using traits such as blood, immune system, genetics, body shape and size, skin color, and skull shape. I can argue why for any if you want.

This is not to say there's not variation at all and that we're "all the same" because there are genetic differences between populations, however these differences account for little of the variation between human populations.

2019-11-07 05:08:33 UTC  

more variation within than between is a super super common race denialist talking point that's been debunked about a 1000x now

2019-11-07 05:08:38 UTC  

Lewontins fallacy

2019-11-07 05:08:40 UTC  

Next

2019-11-07 05:08:59 UTC  

damn i thought it was going to be fancy and shit

2019-11-07 05:09:01 UTC  

there's more variation within humans and a particular subspecies of chimp than between them

2019-11-07 05:09:05 UTC  

it literally means nothing

2019-11-07 05:09:10 UTC  

allright boys back to popeyes

2019-11-07 05:09:10 UTC  

I knew you were going to bring Lewontins fallacy. let me explain to you why and how its usually misconstrued.

2019-11-07 05:09:12 UTC  

Literally all lewontins fallacy

2019-11-07 05:09:16 UTC  

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2019-11-07 05:09:22 UTC  

Alright explain fren

2019-11-07 05:09:40 UTC  

we can feed a computer genetic data and tell it to sort it into a fixed number of groups, the sole criterion being to maximize genetic distance and it recreates the colloquial races

2019-11-07 05:09:59 UTC  

We know 3 million genes of difference with name and location and all

2019-11-07 05:10:18 UTC  

Cant wait for lewontins refutation

2019-11-07 05:10:42 UTC  

The Lewontins Fallacy doesnt challenge Lewontin’s claim that the between group differences were small, it challenged if you can genetically cluster populations meaningfully.

2019-11-07 05:10:57 UTC  

Jewontin's fallacy

2019-11-07 05:11:20 UTC  

@Yek I promise you don't truly understand Lewontin

2019-11-07 05:11:32 UTC  

Fst = (Ht-Hs)/Ht

2019-11-07 05:11:44 UTC  

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2019-11-07 05:12:23 UTC  

Im lazy so ill copy paste
 "However small the racial partition of the total variation may be, if such racial characteristics as there are highly correlate with other racial characteristics, they are by definition informative, and therefore of taxonomic significance."

2019-11-07 05:12:28 UTC  

Dawkins i think

2019-11-07 05:12:31 UTC  

Forgot

2019-11-07 05:12:39 UTC  
2019-11-07 05:12:46 UTC  

id love to have scientific names for them

2019-11-07 05:12:51 UTC  

Oh no! Discredited!

2019-11-07 05:12:54 UTC  

negroidus dindonuffinus

2019-11-07 05:13:06 UTC  

So there is a highish fixation rate amongst humans, for one @Yek

2019-11-07 05:13:13 UTC  

That points to valid subspecies