Message from @KarasuKafka
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But there had been divergent events and cultural differences. One main one is religion. West Ukraine is dominantly Catholic.
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East Ukraine (the more Russian supporters) are Orthodox.
So what do you think of the Russian separatists?
Poles lost their empire so quick
Some would argue that it's like Chinese-Australians declaring part or Australia to be China and wanting to secede.
They can be Russian but can they really take part of Ukraine with them?
Can't they just move to Russia?
@Weaboo Kempeitai Heavy questions. The main problem is a break of International law (The Budapest treaty) and the geopolitical destabilisation of the area.
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I think International Law is a spook tbh
jews and judqism?
Is Ukraine's claim on Crimea stronger than Russias?
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No
Both US and Russia promised a territorial sovereignty to Ukraine in exchange of them giving up their nukes.
US promised it wouldnt swallow ex eastern bloc into NATO
@Muad'Dib It is not even that the main question. How worthy was for Russian for that move and loose support in other close by countries? You see a rise of anti-Russian sentiments in many close by countries (Poland, Hungary, etc).
@Chawosaurian Sure. But the question here not even that.
I think it's like what happened with the Anschluss, if people all speak the language and want to secede, much like Quebec, much like the Confederacy, much like Scotland, the people should have the right to determine their own destiny, imho
Some would argue that the Ukrainians exasperated the situation by not making Russian an official state language, and by essentially ostracising Russian speaking Ukrainians.
Crimea was an extremely important strategic area also
So if Russia would supported a new regime or rebellion siding by them (secretly) that is a different message than breaking their own word.
@Muad'Dib Absolutely.
But probably Russia did the age old American way of waging a war when internal politics is getting rough.
Why should Russia care about ex puppet states that joined the ZOGmerican Protectorate
NATO fosters anti-Russian sentiment on Russia's borders too
Baltic beefs are so complicated.
@Muad'Dib It is not NATO. Nope. In Hungary the recent government licks Russian politicans back side, population still embraces an anti-Russian sentiments.
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It is a long historical conflict of the region.
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I think the eastern bloc as a whole are still dealing with the aftershocks of bolshevism
Hungarians still angry about being Russian satellite
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And again just to say Ukraine's problem was about NATO/Russia is simplification. You seen a deep rooted cultural difference of West Ukraine and East (around the same line as Catholic/Orthodox)