Message from @KarasuKafka

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2019-12-05 09:48:58 UTC  

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2019-12-05 09:48:59 UTC  

i hate when polish are always shitting on ucraine

2019-12-05 09:49:17 UTC  

You can hate as many countries as you want.

2019-12-05 09:49:21 UTC  

Ukraine was just Russian province

2019-12-05 09:49:37 UTC  

i didnt say i hate poland

2019-12-05 09:49:41 UTC  

i hate that they look down on ucraine

2019-12-05 09:49:51 UTC  

Actually that happened later. That part was until that time part of Austrian-Hungarian EMpire.

2019-12-05 09:49:55 UTC  

i dont hate any european peoples including hungarians

2019-12-05 09:50:04 UTC  

albania is the ethno state

2019-12-05 09:50:05 UTC  

They once occupied a good deal of Ukraine

2019-12-05 09:50:21 UTC  

Than lost it to Russkies

2019-12-05 09:51:06 UTC  

Again, for long there was no real difference. Remember the area is important of Russian culture overall as Kiev Rus is a kind of the cradle.

2019-12-05 09:51:11 UTC  

I can buy a 1993 Dodge Viper for 33k.

2019-12-05 09:51:16 UTC  

Wish I was rich

2019-12-05 09:51:31 UTC  

with a whopping 83, african level, IQ, they're probably easy to manipulate

2019-12-05 09:51:33 UTC  

have nose

2019-12-05 09:51:46 UTC  

I hate that I barely understand bitcoin.

2019-12-05 09:51:47 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/652084699396702219/1575516727437.png

2019-12-05 09:51:52 UTC  

But there had been divergent events and cultural differences. One main one is religion. West Ukraine is dominantly Catholic.

2019-12-05 09:52:00 UTC  

I have nothing to loose but can i even start investing if I'm under 18?

2019-12-05 09:52:12 UTC  

East Ukraine (the more Russian supporters) are Orthodox.

2019-12-05 09:52:52 UTC  

So what do you think of the Russian separatists?

2019-12-05 09:52:59 UTC  

Poles lost their empire so quick

2019-12-05 09:53:19 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/652085086296080404/skeksis.jpg

2019-12-05 09:53:34 UTC  

Some would argue that it's like Chinese-Australians declaring part or Australia to be China and wanting to secede.

2019-12-05 09:53:47 UTC  

They can be Russian but can they really take part of Ukraine with them?

2019-12-05 09:53:53 UTC  

Can't they just move to Russia?

2019-12-05 09:53:54 UTC  

@Weaboo Kempeitai Heavy questions. The main problem is a break of International law (The Budapest treaty) and the geopolitical destabilisation of the area.

2019-12-05 09:54:09 UTC  

wat

2019-12-05 09:54:14 UTC  

I think International Law is a spook tbh

2019-12-05 09:54:17 UTC  

jews and judqism?

2019-12-05 09:54:29 UTC  

Is Ukraine's claim on Crimea stronger than Russias?

2019-12-05 09:54:42 UTC  

no

2019-12-05 09:54:43 UTC  

No

2019-12-05 09:54:44 UTC  

Both US and Russia promised a territorial sovereignty to Ukraine in exchange of them giving up their nukes.

2019-12-05 09:55:12 UTC  

US promised it wouldnt swallow ex eastern bloc into NATO

2019-12-05 09:55:46 UTC  

@Muad'Dib It is not even that the main question. How worthy was for Russian for that move and loose support in other close by countries? You see a rise of anti-Russian sentiments in many close by countries (Poland, Hungary, etc).

2019-12-05 09:56:03 UTC  

@Chawosaurian Sure. But the question here not even that.

2019-12-05 09:56:24 UTC  

It is a diplomatic credibility and how much an ally Russia can be in long term.

2019-12-05 09:56:32 UTC  

I think it's like what happened with the Anschluss, if people all speak the language and want to secede, much like Quebec, much like the Confederacy, much like Scotland, the people should have the right to determine their own destiny, imho

2019-12-05 09:56:35 UTC  

Some would argue that the Ukrainians exasperated the situation by not making Russian an official state language, and by essentially ostracising Russian speaking Ukrainians.