Message from @Muad'Dib

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2019-12-05 10:29:34 UTC  

That’s why ukip makes big gains or brexit party

2019-12-05 10:30:00 UTC  

@Rick Turpin Again, that is not entirely true. So compare to UK electoral system Parliament of EU is more of a representation of people's will.

2019-12-05 10:30:01 UTC  

If people takes it seriously better.

2019-12-05 10:30:03 UTC  

In UK electoral system the winner takes it all.

2019-12-05 10:30:09 UTC  

So UKIP in 2014

2019-12-05 10:30:17 UTC  

With 4 million supporters have no seat.

2019-12-05 10:30:22 UTC  

In House of Commons.

2019-12-05 10:30:27 UTC  

None.

2019-12-05 10:30:45 UTC  

Less than 4 time of population support Conservatives had 320+ seats

2019-12-05 10:31:12 UTC  

(Hence people were fed up and teh fisrt time they can vote against David Cameron - they did.

2019-12-05 10:31:15 UTC  

First past the post was kept as the AV+ or proportional representation system was downvoted in a referendum - I voted FPTP

2019-12-05 10:31:19 UTC  

(Berxit referendum)

2019-12-05 10:32:23 UTC  

Also there is a problem with English representation in UK politics. Devoluton created regional control of Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales, but where is the one for England?

2019-12-05 10:33:03 UTC  

You see the rise of English identification in the 2011 Cenus (and the loss of British)

2019-12-05 10:33:21 UTC  

Only reason we had brexit vote was Cameron went to the EU for an update on our position (came back with fuck all) - that split the conservatives so to decide it was put to a vote or farage might have won if nothing was done

2019-12-05 10:33:54 UTC  

Sure, one reason he did teh referendum is to stop the loss of voters to teh UKIP.

2019-12-05 10:33:55 UTC  

@KarasuKafka I agree about England’s position - we should have regional assemblies too

2019-12-05 10:34:10 UTC  

Also probably more than one regional assembly.

2019-12-05 10:34:24 UTC  

Aye norf and south

2019-12-05 10:34:26 UTC  

London has too much power due it's economical strength.

2019-12-05 10:35:02 UTC  

New York is the same

2019-12-05 10:35:12 UTC  

Probably some division of South East and West too.

2019-12-05 10:36:02 UTC  

London is a very dark place

2019-12-05 10:36:04 UTC  

Aye Lancashire and Yorkshire are two different worlds (it’s said those who have kids across county lines have sterile mule children)

2019-12-05 10:36:16 UTC  

Cornwall would suffer if whole South under one umbrella.

2019-12-05 10:36:45 UTC  

Cornwall are celts genetically

2019-12-05 10:37:19 UTC  

@Muad'Dib So I am not talking here about immigration, but I just heard it recently, need to read of the details. But there is a relic of London's council (local) election system I believe.

2019-12-05 10:37:38 UTC  

And that is companies and businesses has voting rights of seats of the city council too.

2019-12-05 10:37:49 UTC  

A heritage of the medieval guilt system.

2019-12-05 10:38:03 UTC  

Not sure the proportion.

2019-12-05 10:38:11 UTC  

Oh yes there is a lot of very sketchy financial history to London

2019-12-05 10:38:17 UTC  

Or what qualifies as a body to vote.

2019-12-05 10:38:30 UTC  

London has been a free city since William the conquer needed their consent to rule - everything beyond was filed out to his buddies

2019-12-05 10:38:31 UTC  

It is a medieval age heritage.

2019-12-05 10:38:48 UTC  

Yep as rick said.

2019-12-05 10:39:09 UTC  

So that definietly contributes of London's political landscape.

2019-12-05 10:39:27 UTC  

Not sure how much, agan, I will have to read the details.

2019-12-05 10:39:31 UTC  

I just get the impression that there is a power behind the throne so to speak\

2019-12-05 10:40:04 UTC  

They have hold overs (like the Lord Mayor not the mayor of London)

2019-12-05 10:40:38 UTC  

2 Separate offices and guys

2019-12-05 10:41:15 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/652097148925771776/royals.jpg