OH I . KNOW THIS EXPERIMENT

JAVLA IDIOTER

lol

how do you "look" without consciousness?

Consciousness does play a role, materialists just have to explqin it away

```This is one of the most fundamental aspects of quantum physics: looking
at a physical system changes its behaviour```

blue = half silvered mirror, photon is randomly reflected or passed through with 50% probability but it changes phase.

Do you disagree with this part from the text, Fuguer?

only a conscious agent can look though

its an interpretational issue

It's like the perception percept problem

looking at a quantum system changes the behavior you observe

a quantum system is in a superposition of states

Yeah, and they lowered the laser enough so it only shot out one photon as a particle

but once you get into things like quantum eraser

you will realize its absolutely not as simple as observing just collapsing the wavefunction

They've done experiments with no physical interaction that proves the observer plays a role, but they don't tell ppl cuz it would upset the atheist applecard

lol no

Quantum Eraser again?

It's an elimination?

It is technically a measurement interaction that that brings the wave into the particle?

like chalk being in the presence of the beam?

High Orbit discussions

quantum eraser is where you observe the path in the double slit experiment, but you later on precisely destroy that information in a quantum way so it cannot leak back into the environment

if you do that, you recover the interference pattern as if you had never observed it

Conscious knowledge of the system is the key not a physical measurement per se

@fuguer undo

>we have convo about physics
>dashi posting brown women
I am never unblocking dashi again. can we ban this guy already?

That makes me think of Penrose's "amnesia" theory

https://twitter.com/HoleNeeder/status/1204164335062470656?s=20

For new Universes

Kek

The convo needs some scenery

so, its not that observing causes collapse, its that if your current state has a memory of interacting with a quantum system, you cant interact with a superposition of it that would contradict that previous measurement

he's harmless

unless you delete all traces of the measurement