Message from @rightrage

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2019-12-12 05:23:05 UTC  

So the observation which path the photon takes, A or B, will destroy the interference effect. This is one of the most fundamental aspects of quantum physics: looking
at a physical system changes its behaviour. This conclusion is entirely determined
by experimental findings, making it inescapable. Note that in order to look at which
path the photon took, we had to interact with the photon via the loops of the QND
detectors. So it is not our “consciousness” that made that photon behave differently,
but the physical interaction that is necessary to “look” at the system, just like the
chalk dust revealing a laser beam interacts with the light by reflecting parts of the
beam towards your eye.

2019-12-12 05:23:06 UTC  

yeah we have a lot of those

2019-12-12 05:23:08 UTC  

all the cool boys say

2019-12-12 05:23:11 UTC  

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2019-12-12 05:23:13 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/654553828686823444/machzehnder.gif

2019-12-12 05:23:19 UTC  

lmao

2019-12-12 05:23:21 UTC  

more diagrams

2019-12-12 05:23:27 UTC  

looking doesnt change the behavior

2019-12-12 05:23:29 UTC  

is this light?

2019-12-12 05:23:31 UTC  

idk

2019-12-12 05:23:34 UTC  

The blue mirrors are the 50% reflectors. The Green reflect 100%.

2019-12-12 05:23:41 UTC  

it changes which part of the quantum system you're entangled with

2019-12-12 05:23:48 UTC  

ok

2019-12-12 05:23:49 UTC  

The yellow are detectors.

2019-12-12 05:24:24 UTC  

if all quantum systems were untangled would that mean all 10 dimensions align (st)

2019-12-12 05:24:47 UTC  

Is this what they call "collapse of the wave function", or the experiment they derive that concept from?

2019-12-12 05:24:49 UTC  

OH I . KNOW THIS EXPERIMENT

2019-12-12 05:24:57 UTC  

JAVLA IDIOTER

2019-12-12 05:24:59 UTC  

lol

2019-12-12 05:25:12 UTC  

how do you "look" without consciousness?

2019-12-12 05:25:13 UTC  

Consciousness does play a role, materialists just have to explqin it away

2019-12-12 05:26:06 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/654554554800668683/asian-persuasion-is-back-and-were-more-sold-than-ever-before-45-photos-25-2.jpg

2019-12-12 05:26:20 UTC  

```This is one of the most fundamental aspects of quantum physics: looking
at a physical system changes its behaviour```

2019-12-12 05:26:30 UTC  

blue = half silvered mirror, photon is randomly reflected or passed through with 50% probability but it changes phase.

2019-12-12 05:26:32 UTC  

Do you disagree with this part from the text, Fuguer?

2019-12-12 05:26:41 UTC  

only a conscious agent can look though

2019-12-12 05:26:42 UTC  

its an interpretational issue

2019-12-12 05:26:50 UTC  

It's like the perception percept problem

2019-12-12 05:26:53 UTC  

looking at a quantum system changes the behavior you observe

2019-12-12 05:27:08 UTC  

a quantum system is in a superposition of states

2019-12-12 05:27:12 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/654554827229102081/I-prefer-light-skinned-girls-770x498.png

2019-12-12 05:27:15 UTC  

Yeah, and they lowered the laser enough so it only shot out one photon as a particle

2019-12-12 05:27:29 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/654554902634299443/original.png

2019-12-12 05:27:34 UTC  

but once you get into things like quantum eraser

2019-12-12 05:27:52 UTC  

you will realize its absolutely not as simple as observing just collapsing the wavefunction

2019-12-12 05:27:58 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/634367565304561675/654555020922060810/sei_1439206.png

2019-12-12 05:28:07 UTC  

They've done experiments with no physical interaction that proves the observer plays a role, but they don't tell ppl cuz it would upset the atheist applecard

2019-12-12 05:28:19 UTC  

lol no

2019-12-12 05:28:21 UTC  

Quantum Eraser again?

2019-12-12 05:28:30 UTC  

It's an elimination?

2019-12-12 05:28:36 UTC  

It is technically a measurement interaction that that brings the wave into the particle?