Message from @La Fin du Monde
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..I would say that India is hedonist because they have sexual
statues in public and talked about sexual pleasure openly
the hedonists lived in Italy.
A society's relationship to sex is one fascet of the society as a whole
I guess I don't have a pleasure with hedonism as long as the society is eugenic and "progressing"
but that seems to seldom be the case
Societies don't progress
...
why I used quotes
Society in general is disgenic, in my opinion
JF probably would agree
Societies do progress
technologically they progress
if healthy
Any improvement upon the conditions we're in now would be "progress"
In one aspect, a society can progress. But that aspect brings other parts to decay
The greek hedonists... did not live in greece,
They lived in a hedonistic society
because they where allowed to walk around and talk..
In Greece they would be killed for immorality
It's just that the term is applied to degeneration on an ideological basis by some people
even if you have a cyclical view of history, there are societies that have progressed technologically/socially
But they are dumber because of it
and hedonism seems to correlate with the top of a cycle
hahahahaha
hedonism correlates ,,,with one thing..
WEALTH
yes
and incoming decline
the ability to afford hedonism..
and hedonism is not.. degeneate
and dysgenics
hedonism is constructive and serious
Lots of ancient societies were wealthy and didn't have a hedonistic outlook. I don't think you can let the proletariate become hedonistic without modern industrial practicies.
Hedonism is not constructive
Rome wasn't built by hedonism
I need lifting advice for barbell deadlifts and bent-over rows (and other lifts in general).
If I maintain a straight back during the lift, am I fairly safe?
Also, for rows, I'm not strong enough to use the 20kg plates on each side (60kg total),
but then I need the diameter of the 20kg plates, otherwise I arch my back quite a bit (I'm fairly tall)
.no.. all the wealthy societies where hedonistic..
Indulging in every base urge to gratify your mostly irrelevant desires is not constructive
If wealth is positively correlated with hedonism then wealth is overrated
the anti-hedonistic outlook is about preparing for death
and dealiing with poverty
Leaf desires american gf
I see wealth facilitating their hedonistic behaviors, not the other way around
Maybe the LEADERs of all weathy societies are hedonistic. But wealth consentration matters
and wealth produciton