Message from @La Fin du Monde
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it's a ancient word bruh
Maybe wealthy societies are wealthy due to their monogamy?
all hedonistic philosophers where wealthy
no
Oh I see what you are saying, that is very ancient view tho
ancient terminology
the greek philosophy of hedonism
where based on merchants who lived in southern italy
rome was wealthy because of the CIA and american impericolonism
Just because you are a hedonistic philosopher doesn't mean that your society in general is hedonistic.
never forget about *chosen* and *exceptional*
austere philosophers like Diogones would see many types of pleasures as immoral
..I would say that India is hedonist because they have sexual
statues in public and talked about sexual pleasure openly
the hedonists lived in Italy.
A society's relationship to sex is one fascet of the society as a whole
I guess I don't have a pleasure with hedonism as long as the society is eugenic and "progressing"
but that seems to seldom be the case
Societies don't progress
...
why I used quotes
Society in general is disgenic, in my opinion
Societies do progress
technologically they progress
if healthy
Any improvement upon the conditions we're in now would be "progress"
In one aspect, a society can progress. But that aspect brings other parts to decay
The greek hedonists... did not live in greece,
They lived in a hedonistic society
because they where allowed to walk around and talk..
In Greece they would be killed for immorality
It's just that the term is applied to degeneration on an ideological basis by some people
even if you have a cyclical view of history, there are societies that have progressed technologically/socially
But they are dumber because of it
and hedonism seems to correlate with the top of a cycle
So, do they have a net progression? No
hahahahaha
hedonism correlates ,,,with one thing..
WEALTH
yes
and incoming decline
the ability to afford hedonism..
and hedonism is not.. degeneate
and dysgenics
hedonism is constructive and serious
Lots of ancient societies were wealthy and didn't have a hedonistic outlook. I don't think you can let the proletariate become hedonistic without modern industrial practicies.