Message from @MawLr

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2019-04-23 23:41:28 UTC  

Stolypin is based as fuck

2019-04-23 23:41:38 UTC  

All Jews are leftists. No need to qualify.

2019-04-23 23:42:14 UTC  

This was the assassin

2019-04-23 23:42:59 UTC  

There’s one sect I haven at least a little respect for. I forget their name, but they’re the fundamentalists of jews and are viciously hated by the rest because of it. They completely reject the Talmud and say it’s false. They believe only in the Torah.

2019-04-23 23:43:22 UTC  

I'd rather not risk it and not trust any

2019-04-23 23:43:27 UTC  

I agree, but there’s always the chance we could use them to cause even more strife and disunion amongst the Jews.

2019-04-23 23:43:30 UTC  

They're called Karaites.

2019-04-23 23:43:36 UTC  

YES

2019-04-23 23:43:37 UTC  

That’s right

2019-04-23 23:43:39 UTC  

Thank you

2019-04-23 23:43:49 UTC  

It was bugging the hell out of me that I couldn’t remember

2019-04-23 23:44:50 UTC  

Stolypin made the day of the rope real 😻

2019-04-23 23:45:11 UTC  

Nobody hates Jews quite like other Jews

2019-04-23 23:45:26 UTC  

They love stepping on each other’s toes all the time

2019-04-23 23:46:01 UTC  

I'm into a history of philosophy podcast right now, and it just wrapped up Jewish and Muslim philosophy in the Middle Ages. The Karaites come from the same philosophical strain as the Islamic Ash'arites, who currently dominate theology in Islam.

2019-04-23 23:46:06 UTC  

The enemy is not nearly as organized as the facade they put up leads us to believe

2019-04-23 23:51:29 UTC  

The big difference between the Karaites and the Ash'arites is that while the Karaites rejected the rabbis, the Ash'arites rejected everything non-Islamic. Ash'arite theologians banned philosophy, which in the 9th century consisted of everything from metaphysics to geometry. It's why Islam is crazier now than ever.

2019-04-23 23:52:16 UTC  

Both Muslims and Jews are the enemy

2019-04-23 23:52:26 UTC  

Muslims don't really seem to hide it though

2019-04-23 23:52:57 UTC  

Whilst Jews attack from within

2019-04-23 23:53:09 UTC  

Iirc the Eastern Catholics don't include the Filiqoue in the creed in Greek

2019-04-23 23:53:44 UTC  

And by non-Islamic, I mean everything but the Qur'an and the hadith. Even traditional Islamic theology got trashed for being too Aristotelian. Ibn Ash'ari was the primary inspiration for ibn Taimiyya, who would later found Salafism.

2019-04-24 00:07:44 UTC  

The filioque wasn't in the original Greek version of the Credo. It was added when it was translated into Latin, possibly deriving from a tradition in the west of expressly and emphatically emphasizing the union of Father and Son as a safeguard against Arianism.

2019-04-24 00:08:44 UTC  

I'm aware, but it is a division in theology between east and west right?

2019-04-24 00:09:35 UTC  

From the time of Nicea until the 9th century, East and West regarded the difference purely of culture. In 810, the patriarch of Constantinople made it an issue for the first time.

2019-04-24 00:09:51 UTC  

my trad uni chaplain thinks it really just more semantics once you get past all the theological definitions and in terms of spiritual life etc we believe the same

2019-04-24 00:09:53 UTC  

It really is just a semantic split.

2019-04-24 00:11:57 UTC  

Photius of Constantinople, in 810, decided that the addition of the filioque constituted the creation of an alternate creed, and thus, a different religion. No one cared before then. Many a small local council (and a few big ones) had determined that it was just a cultural thing.

2019-04-24 00:58:33 UTC  

The Filiqoue is basically an excuse to be schismatic

2019-04-24 00:58:44 UTC  

The Eastern Churches in union with us don't have it either

2019-04-24 00:59:35 UTC  

The entire schism was basically temporal politics

2019-04-24 00:59:42 UTC  

Something that the EO still struggle with to this day

2019-04-24 00:59:47 UTC  

Daily Mass Squad-- Gang Gang

2019-04-24 00:59:54 UTC  

See: ukranian-russia-constantinople schism

2019-04-24 01:01:11 UTC  

Then Orthodox still have the choice between nation-orthodox

2019-04-24 01:01:20 UTC  

i cant wrap my head around it

2019-04-24 01:02:27 UTC  

some even have several national ones

2019-04-24 01:02:57 UTC  

Near my city there's a "free Serbian" orthodox monastery, which is different to the "Serbian" orthodox Church in the city

2019-04-24 01:06:29 UTC  

i dont get it at alll. #Catholic

2019-04-24 01:07:01 UTC  

I mean, should boomer parishes be considered Catholic..?