Message from @Mozalbete ⳩
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@Daniil See Constantine the Great
Fascism is a rejection of the rule of the majority
Fascist leaders need to give into the church as well
They are not above the church
I don’t see that being a thing
I guess Christianity isn't good, since Christianity didn't protect us perfectly from the elightement theory happening, which means it didn't reject it completely.
Dude, Franco
Orthodoxy has always rejected the Enlightenment
Franco was Catholic and a threat to Orthodoxy
What happens when I disavow Catholicism?
And the pope?
I don't even understand what that mess is supposed to be
Do you really think that your dear countries where there are no orthodox do not share the same "rights" and "democracy" and "enlightement" nonsense?
Do you thinks Orthodox monks are big fans of democracy?
Do you really think 99% of them aren't?
Monasteries are what really connect heaven and earth
What is that supposed to mean in this context?
That monasteries keep tradition pure and are not as nearly as corrupted as the outside world. They will hold to correct understanding of the world
And what does that have to do with anything?
That your claims of Orthodoxy being Enlightenment crazed is nonsense
Second, I have just applied your logic that something is bad and must be hated if it doesn't magically protect you against enlightement nonsense. Nothing is going to make the world inmune against that
For the best understanding I am saying it is to be found in monasteries
Monasteries alone can't rule a country.
But without monasteries a country can’t be worth anything
and we look at fascism
and we see that tere were plenty of monasteries
Like during Franco's rule, for example
Plenty of them to steal from apparently
And do not say "those don't count because they are catholic"
Okay
What are you even talking about? Are you even aware of how much Franco promoted Christianity?
So according to your logic if the communists managed to destroy all monasteries in Russia, then it means that it wouldn't be worth saving anyway and might as well remain communist?
There is that magical idea
That something is terrible if it doesn't create some magical barrier
That protects you from anything in the future
It seems that to be good, you don't have to achieve true prosperity during your time, but during eternity
The Virgin Mary protected the church in Russia. Your hypotheticals don’t mean anything in a world where God prevents such things from happening
You doubt God’s providence
russia has been ridden with communist, ridden with abortions now too. the govenrment is democratic and protects muslims among many other things.
I don't doubt God's providence. I just don't assume anything good has to enjoy a protective providence for eternity.