Message from @Mr. Byzantium
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And what does that have to do with anything?
That your claims of Orthodoxy being Enlightenment crazed is nonsense
First, orthodoxy isn't just "monasteries"
Second, I have just applied your logic that something is bad and must be hated if it doesn't magically protect you against enlightement nonsense. Nothing is going to make the world inmune against that
For the best understanding I am saying it is to be found in monasteries
Monasteries alone can't rule a country.
But without monasteries a country can’t be worth anything
and we look at fascism
and we see that tere were plenty of monasteries
Like during Franco's rule, for example
Plenty of them to steal from apparently
And do not say "those don't count because they are catholic"
Okay
What are you even talking about? Are you even aware of how much Franco promoted Christianity?
So according to your logic if the communists managed to destroy all monasteries in Russia, then it means that it wouldn't be worth saving anyway and might as well remain communist?
There is that magical idea
That something is terrible if it doesn't create some magical barrier
That protects you from anything in the future
It seems that to be good, you don't have to achieve true prosperity during your time, but during eternity
The Virgin Mary protected the church in Russia. Your hypotheticals don’t mean anything in a world where God prevents such things from happening
russia has been ridden with communist, ridden with abortions now too. the govenrment is democratic and protects muslims among many other things.
I don't doubt God's providence. I just don't assume anything good has to enjoy a protective providence for eternity.
And yet we know the whole world will become Orthodox, that even our saints say Rome will be corrected.
Big surprise, orthodox saints talk fondly about orthodoxy.
They speak truth
Not that there are not many things to correct about rome in the wordly sense.
St. John of Kronstadat spoke of the clown masses and the liturgical reform of Vatican II
Way before it even happened
And the children of Fatima already heard of inner fights etc etc.
So how do you think to change society with the churches in turmoil?
Well, either some righteous leader will somehow rise to a position of power, be it in wordly rule or the Church, or chaos will reuslt in a disaster and good people will have to rebuild
Which leads us to fascism
Is that not hoping in God’s providence?
Yes, I hipe that god will bring us a great fascist dictator that will implant a monarchy
Gotta go. Bye, my autistic compadres.
But you yourself can’t determine how God chooses to implement anything
If you manage to rise to the top then it means God has chosen you.
If you dont, nor do you want to, it means God hasn't chosen you to lead. But this means your job is to follow
You risk failing and being considered rebellious
Sounds kind of like Christ