Message from @SUPER MALE VITALITY™

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2019-04-25 21:37:44 UTC  

That is why I agree that in many places things have completely gotten out of hand

2019-04-25 21:39:27 UTC  

She was blessed, she was not an aspect of God, and she died for no sins. Memorial is good, she was important in the life of Jesus, but in the redemption story she's not that significant, and that's ok

2019-04-25 21:39:28 UTC  

Latin America as a whole has trash pagan influences all over

2019-04-25 21:39:38 UTC  

Ehhhhjj

2019-04-25 21:39:50 UTC  

She's pretty important to the redemption story man

2019-04-25 21:39:58 UTC  

I think he means

2019-04-25 21:40:01 UTC  

I mean, physically yes

2019-04-25 21:40:22 UTC  

In the sense of having some nature or aspect that enables redemption

2019-04-25 21:40:30 UTC  

She's like #2 in importance

2019-04-25 21:40:32 UTC  

Oh, yeah

2019-04-25 21:40:56 UTC  

After Jesus

2019-04-25 21:41:01 UTC  

But narratively she's a very minor character, there wasn't all that much we were meant to draw from her beyond the story of the conception and birth of christ, and some tidbits after

2019-04-25 21:41:02 UTC  

I assume we're talking people here

2019-04-25 21:41:17 UTC  

Yeah, but historically those parts have been given a very high importance

2019-04-25 21:41:40 UTC  

Especially with the interpretation of Revelation's Woman

2019-04-25 21:42:46 UTC  

John, Paul, Peter, all vastly outweigh her in biblical importance. Having a small role doesn't make her any less vital, but there are a lot of figures in the Bible like that.

2019-04-25 21:43:52 UTC  

I would disagree. They are important so far as the message goes for Christianity, but the significance of being picked to raise God as your child is far more significant IMO and the fathers agree with me

2019-04-25 21:44:41 UTC  

Isn't there mentions in revelation? But anyways, I don't think it is that important that someone puts emphasis on some or other person.

2019-04-25 21:45:09 UTC  

The woman in revelation with the crown of stars has been interpreted by many to be Mary

2019-04-25 21:45:09 UTC  

She's blessed among women, being of a relative few who played vital roles in the salvation story (taken to the beginning), but I'm speaking narratively here. No matter how important and vital was to the life of Christ, there is only so much we as Christians are meant to glean from her.

2019-04-25 21:46:01 UTC  

Otherwise her role would have beenmore prominent on a scale comperable to Peter, Paul, or John

2019-04-25 21:46:12 UTC  

Yes, but among the Protestant side of things, there is a matter of combatting false doctrine by emphasizing true doctrine that need be done.

2019-04-25 21:47:10 UTC  

Furthermore, I am not speaking of her role in the redemption but rather favor from God. She was picked for a very special role that nobody else in history received.

2019-04-25 21:51:46 UTC  

Yeah, which is why I think memorial is merited. Just not elevation. Veneration isn't terrible so long as it points to the right place, but Mary has morphed into an end unto herself in a lot of tradition

2019-04-25 21:52:53 UTC  

Most of this is Hispanic Catholicisim's fault, but even the greater church has had its moments. The servites in particular are bad about it.

2019-04-25 21:53:46 UTC  

Spain brought over over-veneration. Then it got mixed with pagan traditions and became what it is now

2019-04-25 21:56:05 UTC  

A cesspit of degeneracy and the place where mutts seem to find themselves identified, as they taker her as symbol of their struggle with two cultures

2019-04-25 21:56:07 UTC  

Everything in Christianity has morphed into monstrosities everywhere

2019-04-25 21:57:53 UTC  

Mary push for Jesus first miracle

2019-04-25 21:59:08 UTC  

She's rightfully important, however I believe these men argue about how, at least in Mexico, she has been used as a bridge between cultures (and the natives have taken to venerate her beyond what could be considered sane)

2019-04-25 21:59:27 UTC  

@MawLroh right yeah no i agree

2019-04-25 22:04:40 UTC  

Typically outside of strict Christian tradition she is little more than a stand in for the local goddess or spirit that can no longer be publically worshipped. Even in Christian nations now it leaks into standing in for raw feminist theory (feminism being the prime paganism of the first world).

2019-04-25 22:06:10 UTC  

There needs to be a purge of those things

2019-04-25 22:06:23 UTC  

Indeed

2019-04-25 22:11:53 UTC  

@Skeez fishing is cool :D hope you have a fun time

2019-04-25 22:21:04 UTC  

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2019-04-25 22:28:51 UTC  
2019-04-26 04:12:50 UTC  

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2019-04-26 04:13:01 UTC  

Look at this degenerate

2019-04-26 04:13:36 UTC  

I saw a woman with a tail at a park once

2019-04-26 04:13:50 UTC  

I had to do a double take