Message from @SUPER MALE VITALITY™
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Hence why I made reference to the Nestorians
You can check yourself the many Fathers of the Church who combat the related heresies, and the parts of Scripture they mention
Specially St. Cyril of Alexandria
I would rather say that you, like the rest of protestants have been led astray, and entered a spiral of heresies with no brakes
He fought really hard to defend the very title of Theotokos
(Mother of God)
Yeah this is why I brought up nestorianism again, just clarifying
But Christ can still be God born to a virgin even if she had sinned, or later sinned, Christ is God. Jesus inhabited a great many dens of sin without himself succimbing or the place around him being destroyed.
That would lead to the incarnation inherit the sin
Thus the link back to the gymnastic
It seems pretty simple
The thing is those dens of sin were not their mother
It's a whole dogma that exists to reconcile something that didn't need reconciliation
It just was
No, it is a dogma that has existed for all time and that is only challenged in Neo-Sodom, the land of all heresies: America
2000 years later
Indeed
Hypermarianism comes in waves, I wouldn't say all time
If the very land that Christ stepped on is holy, what’s this twisted attempt to deny the very woman that gave birth to him was too?
You are reacting emotionally to what you observe in some areas of the world, cutting your arm when it is diseased instead of curing it
Was David a man after God's own heart? Was Elijah a man of God even in succumbing to cowardice and fleeing persecution?
Mary is the mother of God, Mary isn't just some receptacle in which God teleports
Mary is the Mother of all the Redeemed too
Mary is even mentioned back in the protoevangelium
Galatians 4:4
**Galatians 4:4 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**
```Dust
<4> But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent his Son, made of a woman, made under the law: ```
Mary can be holy without being perfect, just as many before her
This shows a far greater relationship that just mere "exposition"
Genesis 3:15
**Genesis 3:15 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**
```Dust
<15> I will put enmities between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed: she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel. ```
To a point that it has theological consequences
Galatians 4:4-6
**Galatians 4:4-6 - English Standard Version (ESV)**
```Dust
<4> But when the fullness of time had come, God sent forth his Son, born of woman, born under the law, <5> to redeem those who were under the law, so that we might receive adoption as sons. <6> And because you are sons, God has sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, crying, "Abba! Father!" ```
Just wanted to get the surrounding
So basically, let’s ignore the Protoevangelium ayy
It didn't say she was sinless there either
John 19:26-27
**John 19:26-27 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**
```Dust
<26> When Jesus therefore had seen his mother and the disciple standing whom he loved, he saith to his mother: Woman, behold thy son. <27> After that, he saith to the disciple: Behold thy mother. And from that hour, the disciple took her to his own. ```
Genesis 3:14-16
**Genesis 3:14-16 - English Standard Version (ESV)**
```Dust
<14> The Lord God said to the serpent,"Because you have done this, cursed are you above all livestock and above all beasts of the field; on your belly you shall go, and dust you shall eat all the days of your life. <15> I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and her offspring; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel."<16> To the woman he said,"I will surely multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children. Your desire shall be contrary to your husband, but he shall rule over you."```
Lmao we aren't told "there is a Trinity guys" either, but you claimed that thre was no support form Scripture. However, Scirpture shows a relationship that is far debyond just being some kind of receptacle, by virtue of God himself being born of Mary