The term "see" is a dangerous thing, there are manifestations, then there is what is called seeing his divinity which can be considered impossible because of the essence of divinity

Not exactly, but you are saying it

He can protect you from evil without you being in his presence

Even when it comes to other persons of the Trinity, while they can manifest themselves, we do not see their divinity, which would be beyond us

And i mean his glory, which can be destructive as we heard

I mean, one could even argue God revealed his divinity to John in his Apocalypse, which would explain many of the visions and the incomprehensible nature of some of what is spoken of in that book.

I think they were just visions tbh

Prophetic visions, many of which struggle to be put into words by admission what was seen

Yes exactly

I was going to say that

And then he says what he thinks he saw

Could easily have been at least in part the full divinity of God, same with the appearance on the road to Damascus to Paul

Fear and terror and awe always accompany God revealing himself

The uncreated light, as heysachists call it

Right, that is why i think that the holy spirit as God is not likely to get in a moraly unclean person, not because it cant but because it decides to not

Because it is destructive to the human, to have God inside him when he is unclean

Paul was as morally unclean as it gets

He slaughtered Christians

Yes but he changed

After

What about people who decide to give their lives to Christ?

Well when did he get the holy spirit?

He got it by grace

When God appeared on the road to Damascus, Paul was presently a blasphemer and a murderer

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Yes but when did he receive it?

Not until he was blinded and left there to seek shelter with a Christian did he receive grace, far after the fact

And everyone is getting it by grace.

Yes he changed though

After

He dependent

Yeah and after he received the spirit

He recieved the spirit because he changed, because God giving the mercy of revealing his divinity without passing immediate judgement is a mercy beyond comprehension not to be taken lightly

But it is within His power fully to grant

Yes i agree

But i still see it thst the God will give the spirit when you are clean

You are never, ever clean when God grants the Spirit, because the Spirit is the only thing capable of making clean

Hm

Well yeah you can't be fully clean because you never can be sinless

You receive the spirit because you are unclean, not because you put on the facade of holiness. If anything, the facade of holiness is an impediment to the reception of the spirit.

Can you support your claim with the bible? A story or something