i know

just said we don't

Take a look at an acumenical council and see how they look like

Ah ok

Blessed be to all the martyrs

This is how authoritative declarations look like: http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/3801.htm

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@MawLr

Overall, I see sedevacantism as the other extreme of pope ultra-obsession

see that is the consequence

There is this idea that whatever the pope writes in a bull while on the toilet creates this obligation

So of course the consequence is "since these popes that we know better say things that are retarded, they can't be Pope"

What is included under “faith and morals”?
Theologians speak of the “Object” of Infallibility, i.e., those aspects of faith and morals which necessarily pertain to the Church’s Infallibility. According to Msgr. G. Van Noort,1 there are both primary and secondary objects.
The primary object is all of the truths explicitly contained in Scripture or Tradition. The secondary object is “all those matters which are so closely connected with the revealed deposit that revelation itself would be imperiled unless an absolutely certain decision could be made about them.” Hence, the following must be considered as guaranteed by the Infallibility of the Church:
a. theological conclusions
b. dogmatic facts
c. the general discipline of the Church — in other words, the Church’s laws and the Church’s liturgy cannot contain something harmful to faith and morals.
d. approval of religious orders
e. canonization of saints

This is what constitutes ex Cathedra

I don't care about what theologians speak

Not “a pope on the toilet”

What do you mean?

Everything you say is some fuzzy thing said by random people

"theological conclusions"

"general discipline"

What is the source of all that you just quoted?

Lmao theologians

I couldn't care less about theologians

Can you point me to the council that gives this authority to those "theologians"?

No, the dogmas were constituted by the ecumenical councils and similar

They weren't "theologians", they were bishops in a council that is declared ecumenical by the pope

Because those councils need the Pope to declare them ecumenical lmao

Someone says

"the following must be considered as guaranteed by the Infallibility of the Church:"

Says who lmao

I see things in a much more simple way

The councils are the clear example: we have something that is stated as authoritative and declared as ecumenical by the popes as a privilege of authority

Then from whatever is authoritative I expect a similar formula, and statement

^ average discord thomist

cba

I have too much work

2 romans is enough to stop the catholic onslaught

me and dasick

gn