Message from @Jarl_Seraphim
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It is Christ. And form Christ comes the Church
Apostolic Christianity exists since day 1, unlike protestant denominations that are traced to some random American, vow-breaking monk, or divorced king
Haha
Yeah but you don't understand by agreeing on scriptural interpretation at a counsel is not infallible
Otherwise people wouldn't disagree
The authority of an acumenical council is infallible
People disagree because people break away
Just because you had the most people on your side and could physically remove them by pain of torture or death definitely sounds like infallible apostolic succession to me. Good one.
Or you physically remove them and call them heretics.
Through democracy
It's not about majority
Ok
It has never been about majorities, which is why there is a hierarchy with a pope at the end
So how did a counsel agree
Heretics have been the majority at times
The council has a result that has to be approved by the Pope
It hasn't always been with a pope at the head
It's why the Orthodox have issue with the Catholic Church
The word of the Pope has always been final. If the Pope decrees that a council is not valid, it is not valid
And I will call them out on that
You can check the details on how new popes come to be
But the moment someone is Pope, he has authority
No, please don't be coy.
How does a pope become pope
I don't know the exact details about how the Pope is chosen, they are irrelevant here
No it's not
Because if they're chosen by a council or by bishops my point still holds
They are, because authority does not come from a bloodline, but from God
It's literally because of democracy
If they are chosen by a council, there is no voting by any majority of population
Otherwise, you could as well sya that there is a democracy where the population is a single person
Well that's essentially what I am saying. Is that the pope is infallible because you say he's infallible.
The papacy is a lifelong title. The pope does not have to follow any wishes of the majority
That's not an argument
He's infallible because the Church is divine, created by Christ and the Gates of Hell will not prevail
What part of that is not an argument?
The circular part.
What circular part? The original is well established with the creation of the Church by Christ
>Scripture is not the basis of Christianity
>uses scripture to prove point