Message from @Jarl_Seraphim
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Who says what is against scripture?
If you were to cheat on your wife that would not be against scripture? You'd have to go to the pope and ask him for his infallible opinion on the matter?
It is against scripture to say that the Church can go against Scripture
The Gates of Hell will not prevail
You seem to imply that it is so easy to know what is and isn't against scripture, that there is no need for an infallible Church
However, you got a million denominations, each of them with a different opinion on what goes and does not go against Scripture
How did people read and understand the Bible and compile it and decide? So you're saying the reason Catholicism is the one true Church is because the line of people who compiled it and interpretated it were and are infallible?
Protestant denominations that disagree with mainstream Theological interpretations aren't in Disagreement about what's right, they're purposefully sinful
Catholicism is the Church because it has been since it was created by Christ
Sounds like circular reasoning to never be wrong about anything.
And the Bible did not exist as such for a few centuries
The basis of Christianity is not the Bible
It is Christ. And form Christ comes the Church
Apostolic Christianity exists since day 1, unlike protestant denominations that are traced to some random American, vow-breaking monk, or divorced king
Haha
Yeah but you don't understand by agreeing on scriptural interpretation at a counsel is not infallible
Otherwise people wouldn't disagree
The authority of an acumenical council is infallible
People disagree because people break away
Just because you had the most people on your side and could physically remove them by pain of torture or death definitely sounds like infallible apostolic succession to me. Good one.
Through democracy
It's not about majority
Ok
It has never been about majorities, which is why there is a hierarchy with a pope at the end
So how did a counsel agree
Heretics have been the majority at times
The council has a result that has to be approved by the Pope
It hasn't always been with a pope at the head
It's why the Orthodox have issue with the Catholic Church
The word of the Pope has always been final. If the Pope decrees that a council is not valid, it is not valid
And I will call them out on that
Who appoints a pope?
You can check the details on how new popes come to be
But the moment someone is Pope, he has authority
No, please don't be coy.
How does a pope become pope
I don't know the exact details about how the Pope is chosen, they are irrelevant here
No it's not
Because if they're chosen by a council or by bishops my point still holds
They are, because authority does not come from a bloodline, but from God