Message from @de ton

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2018-09-08 03:11:52 UTC  

It is murder even if they are guilty if they haven't been tried by some sort of court.

2018-09-08 03:12:14 UTC  

That's why the Church had the Inquisition, not the Assassination.

2018-09-08 03:12:29 UTC  

As much as some people get them confused.

2018-09-08 08:32:43 UTC  

Political assassins = extra-judicial killing = sinful

2018-09-08 08:34:45 UTC  

The only time I believe political assassinations would be justified if the rule of law has been positively shattered and we are living in anarchy.

2018-09-08 08:35:08 UTC  

Can’t be extra-judicial is there is no judiciary.

2018-09-08 09:55:40 UTC  

What if the Judiciary is untrustworthy?

2018-09-08 17:21:31 UTC  

Then I would challenge that person to a duel.

2018-09-08 17:21:53 UTC  

If I killed him, it wouldn't be murder, seeing as how he was also trying to kill me.

2018-09-08 17:28:26 UTC  

isn't duelling forbidden by the Church ?

2018-09-08 17:29:01 UTC  

I'd have to look that up.

2018-09-08 17:31:49 UTC  

Dueling is illegal in most nation-states too if I'm not mistaken

2018-09-08 17:32:20 UTC  

We're talking about a scenario where the state is in anarchy and/or the judiciary is untrustworthy.

2018-09-08 17:32:46 UTC  

Set up your own judiciary

2018-09-08 17:32:48 UTC  

:v

2018-09-08 17:32:58 UTC  

That's an option, too.

2018-09-08 17:33:39 UTC  

If it's an anarchy then arm yourself and your family and maybe friendly families, block off sections of your neighborhood and set up an autonomous temporary government

2018-09-08 17:33:45 UTC  

Lay down the law and enforce it

2018-09-08 17:36:10 UTC  

How does the Catholic Church view the American Revolution?

2018-09-08 17:36:13 UTC  

Was it justified

2018-09-08 18:02:19 UTC  

No

2018-09-08 18:47:53 UTC  

Natural law is a thing too.

2018-09-08 18:50:11 UTC  

I know that "legalism" is basically a meme now, but saying that killing someone can only be justified if they're tried by a court first, is basically actual legalism. Especially if the people who commit such crimes are the ones that control the courts in the first place.

2018-09-08 18:54:03 UTC  

I'm sorry, but I will never admit that murder is justified.

2018-09-08 18:59:22 UTC  

it's not only justified if they're tried etc

2018-09-08 18:59:37 UTC  

since there is the principle of self-defense

2018-09-08 19:00:02 UTC  

other than that, it has always been like this

2018-09-09 02:56:16 UTC  

What’s everyone’s thoughts on Christian Identity

2018-09-09 03:01:48 UTC  

Well I'm non white so

2018-09-09 03:13:16 UTC  

It's literal WE WUZ

2018-09-09 04:06:09 UTC  

I was CI once

2018-09-09 04:06:36 UTC  

@Byzas I disagree

2018-09-09 04:06:55 UTC  

@Smackface what made you convert to another denom?

2018-09-09 04:07:30 UTC  

I wasn't always Catholic

2018-09-09 04:07:44 UTC  

Or do you mean convert away from CI?

2018-09-09 04:07:56 UTC  

The second

2018-09-09 04:08:31 UTC  

Found more truth in the Catholic Church

2018-09-09 04:08:40 UTC  

And saw the works of CI adherants

2018-09-09 04:09:07 UTC  

They're almost all idiots more obsessed with internet drama than being effective racists

2018-09-09 04:10:55 UTC  

I know a few that are good folks though, other than not being catholic

2018-09-09 04:12:01 UTC  

Their basic theology is akin to messianic judaism, just no talmudism but many follow old testament law